Hey Giantsfan83

[HollywoodLeo]

And we know how much it helped those scrubs.

And dont forget Paul Byrd aswell, amazing Cy Young numbers yo.

Did you even read that post you quoted?

[GiantsFanatic]

Don't GF83 you've already been banned once, just shake it off.

I know man I know, but this guy is a "mod" and yet he's trying to bait me. Pretty classy move.

[GiantsFanatic]

Do you really wanna be the most biased posted on these forums?

Not being Bias, I have already pointed out my points on this subject.

Would you be bias aswell if I said Ruth's records should be tainted because he used a cork bat?

[GiantsFanatic]

Your logic is so twisted it's almost hilarious.

Obviously someone can't pop steroids and instantaneously become a great baseball player.

Much to the same effect someone can't pop steroids and instantaneously become a good linebacker

Barry Bonds was already a great baseball player before he allegedly started taking steroids.

The steroids made him better, though.

There is a huge difference between playing OLB in the NFL, then playing LF in the MLB.

[browntown653]

I have no intention in "baiting" you, I just cannot possibly understand what kind of twisted logic you could use to defend Barry Bonds, a man who has obviously cheated, and then say that steroids and HGH do not help a baseball player, then say that if they did wrestlers would be in the MLB.

I can see this is going nowhere, so I will not stick around and "bait" you as you wish, go enjoy Bonds in prison.

[browntown653]

Not being Bias, I have already pointed out my points on this subject.

Would you be bias aswell if I said Ruth's records should be tainted because he used a cork bat?

Where did you see this?

[HollywoodLeo]

Not being Bias, I have already pointed out my points on this subject.

Would you be bias aswell if I said Ruth's records should be tainted because he used a cork bat?

When you call Chargers fans hypocrites for calling out Bonds while rooting for Merriman then turn around and defend Bonds....you're being biased.

[HollywoodLeo]

There is a huge difference between playing OLB in the NFL, then playing LF in the MLB.

Of course there is, but that has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not steroids can help you hit a baseball farther.

[GiantsFanatic]

Hows exactly is it "cheating" when there is no logical proof that shows if it helped or not?

Thats like me saying that someone who has a 4.0 at Princeton is smarter than someone who has a 4.0 at Yale. Its impossible to figure that out by just looking at the GPA.

[HollywoodLeo]

Do you really need "proof" GF?

Steroids make you stronger, if you're stronger you can hit a baseball harder.

It's really not that hard to comprehend.

The reason those scrubs you point out don't excel is because no matter how strong they get they still suck at making contact in the first place.

[GiantsFanatic]

Where did you see this?

Bill James historical abstract.

[HollywoodLeo]

Or, in Paul Byrd's case, being stronger won't help you in getting a baseball past a hitter.

There's a reason not so many pitchers pop.

You'd have a legit argument here if Bonds were a hall of fame pitcher.

[HollywoodLeo]

Where did you see this?

Apparently they found a cork in one of his bats in the HOF.

So, naturally, this means every one of his bats were corked.

[BuckFoston]

Bill James historical abstract.

There is no proof that a corked bat can make you hit the ball farther, there is no proof that Ruth used a cork bat so you can't say that.

Listen to that GF83 that sounds ridiculous doesn't it? Its kind of what you sound like right now...

[browntown653]

There is proof that a corked bat can make you hit the ball father, I just have never seen anything about Ruth using a corked bat. I would need to hear more on the situation...that's not what we're even talking about anyway.

BTW...BuckFoston did you get that sig from ProSportsDaily forums?