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San Francisco GiantsWait you moved this to the smack forum. As in generals words......
*snap* *snap* *snap* no you didn't.......
Damn it, I was having fun talking about the Tigers in this thread.
Wait you moved this to the smack forum. As in generals words......
*snap* *snap* *snap* no you didn't.......
Damn it, I was having fun talking about the Tigers in this thread.
What in the hell makes you think it won't cost prospects? What are you going to give them then? Either way it will cost you your prospects so why not go for the better overall player? The Phillies are going to have to buyout his trade clause and give him money on his option. That's going to cost any team their prospects right there.Originally Posted by tigerstripes
The Tigers know that it's going to cost prospects, but they just hope not as much since they're taking on a pretty big contract. That's all. Last I heard, Leyland said there was no chance of getting Abreu. Phillies mustve told Tigers, what it was going to cost. Dombrowski was smart and rejected the trade offer.
So Abreu wasn't so easy now was it? Soriano is the better of the two anyway. Either way they were going to cost high prospects because the Phillies were going to have to pay as well.
I highly doubt we get Soriano. Cause I'm just not comfortable with him on the team. Cause he could possibly be just playing OF, cause he knows he can leave Washington after the season. Soriano would probably ask to play 2B. I just don't see Polanco moving out of 2B, so we can have this great hitter. Cause we all know how much Soriano sucks defensively.
Lets see, Abreu isn't worth the $18 million that he's asking for to accept a trade and the Phillies know it. You can ask for the moon but it doesn't mean you'll get it.
If you think the Tigers will give three top prospects for Abreu, you've been living up to your screenname a bit too much.
They might give up some prospects, but Sanchez or the like...I doubt it.
So you doubt they will get him because YOU feel discomfort? I think every GM will say no to Soriano ever playing second again after this year. He has adapted very well to the OF. For the money Soriano will be making next year, he will play where ever the **** they want him to.
The Phillies have to pay Abreu to be traded and pick up his option so yes they will need highly touted prospects. They are not going to go through that much trouble to get "decent" prospects. I never said three was the magic number tigerstripes so maybe you need some pot. Where are you getting lost?
I don't remember where I read it but rumor has it that virtually any team (other than NYY) trading for him will require him to agree to an extension prior to making a deal.
It makes sense.
PUT THE BONG DOWN
I'll say this v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y so you'll get it.
The Phillies will are requiring the other team to pick up the remainder of the contract. Furthermore, Abreu has a FULL no trade clause. This enables him to block a trade if he doesn't want it.
The team that's acquiring him will have to pick up his option...not the Phillies. I know that it's difficult to figure out, but I have a bit of faith in you.
(Once again, I'll say it slowly. The acquiring team is the team that he'll end up on.)
So lets put it together:
Phillies: get off of salary hook and some lesser prospects
Acquiring team (team getting player) Pays remainder of salary & picks up option years at significantly more than player is worth.
Really? Hmm. I still think he would make it a requrement or something that he plays 2B. Which would be pretty stupid.
Wow. It says I have to spread rep around before giving it to you.
Most teams, by that I mean no teams, are not going to take on his $16 million option which means the Phillies will have to!!! Plus they still have to buy out his no waive clause. No team is going to take on the option!!!! If you have a problem any problems, take Advil.
And just to add one more thing, the whole reason for me responding was because someone said Abreu would be easier than Soriano to obtain which is far from the truth as I clearly have stated.
Sure they will. The Phil's have told teams that well in advance that they WILL have to take on Abreu's contract and Abreu's agent has said recently that the acquiring team WILL have to compensate his player.
Here's a morsel from the San Jose Mercury:
"An Abreu deal would be more of a money transaction, since the Yankees would be doing the Phillies a favor by taking his hefty contract. Gillick has asked about Phillip Hughes, the Yankees top pitching prospect, but the Yankees have no intention on dealing him."
That article explains the differences in what it'll take to get Soriano vs. Abreu...primarily PROSPECTS.
Again, it said that Abreu will be more of a money deal since the Phils have long since stated that you want him, you get his overblown contract.
No waive clause? What the hell is that? Is the guy getting waived? It's a NO TRADE CLAUSE.
Advil sounds great. After reading your last post and trying to get any of it to make sense...I think I'll either take the entire bottle or go run in front of a fat lady in spandex chasing a run away twinkie.
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