HUGELY informative article

[OBBoltsFan]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...6sullivan.html

Some of the quotes and ideas in this article clearly justify the displeasure us, the loyal fans, are having. When veterans are going so far as to claimin they feel that ownership screwed them and inventing absurd ideas of conspiracy, our panicing seems far less myopic.

I'm very happy Sullivan went out on a limb to report this, and I hope to God that Moores and Alderson are reading.

[HollywoodLeo]

I said it at the UT i'll say it here.

If the players can't accept the fact that two non producers (Vinny/EY) were released they need to ****ing grow up and earn their paychecks.

[OBBoltsFan]

I said it at the UT i'll say it here.

If the players can't accept the fact that two non producers (Vinny/EY) were released they need to ****ing grow up and earn their paychecks.

I was thinking the same thing with the "we were better off standing pat" comment, thus why I stated that the players are sounding a lot more myopic and turbulent than us.

[padrefanforever]

Yup......time for Bochy to stick his foot up some players asses and try something other than sitting on his thumbs.....I want meltdowns.......I want to see that they have a pulse still..........I want to see a brawl........no wait that's too much

[Rufio181]

Leo did bring up a point. If the players are being kids and complaining about players leaving the team, its time for the manager to uproar this team.

[padrefanforever]

It's way past time ......... it should have never been allowed to happen

[FmrFresnan]

Someone in that clubhouse needs to step up. Trevor, Cam, Giles, Doc, one of these guys needs to step up and take a hold of the clubhouse and shake it's foundations.

Did anyone see the article in the UT today about Kevin Towers saying "Damned if I do, damned if I don't" excuse about not doing anything of impact at the deadline? KT, we're damning you because you put a good player in a bad situation, that's why we're pissed.

[padrefanforever]

He's never been damned if he does........lol........just damned when he doesn't....hell when he does, he does well

[Rufio181]

Someone in that clubhouse needs to step up. Trevor, Cam, Giles, Doc, one of these guys needs to step up and take a hold of the clubhouse and shake it's foundations.

Did anyone see the article in the UT today about Kevin Towers saying "Damned if I do, damned if I don't" excuse about not doing anything of impact at the deadline? KT, we're damning you because you put a good player in a bad situation, that's why we're pissed.

Link?

[Rufio181]

Heres another article today from the UT

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...17padreax.html

The front office's reaction to Sullivan's article and the players complaints.

[HollywoodLeo]

He's never been damned if he does........lol........just damned when he doesn't....hell when he does, he does well

That's not true, he "did" when he got Walker for third base....

[OBBoltsFan]

"We all have the same common goal and that is to win the NL West championship"

Hoe encouraging.

[padrefanforever]

That was like applying a bandaid to a gunshot wound.....and it wasn't a "do" it was an "oops"

[HollywoodLeo]

That was like applying a bandaid to a gunshot wound.....and it wasn't a "do" it was an "oops"

we've succumbed to debating semantics here, but he "did" whether it was a good move or not (which it wasn't)

[padrefanforever]

Well I don't consider a getting a square peg for a round hole a move...... he's not a 3bag, wasn't a 3bag, and still isn't a 3bag..... therefore he never addressed 3rd base IMO