Got Chemistry? The Yankees do

[Dry1313]

Somebody is jumping the gun for being in 3rd place and having the 29th best bullpen (The Natinals save you from being last)

I'd be surprised without a overhaul of the bullpen for the Yankees to make the playoffs.

When your starters can go 7 innings and let up 1 run, it isn't as bad as you'd think.

We've won 8 straight, we're sweeping the O's tomorrow, taking 2/3 from Philly, taking 2/3 at Texas, and then taking 3/4 if not sweeping Cleveland.

We're 2.5 games out of first. If you think that you can 7 out of your next ten, then more power to you. We'll be in first within 15 games.

[cjkalt]

When your starters can go 7 innings and let up 1 run, it isn't as bad as you'd think.

We've won 8 straight, we're sweeping the O's tomorrow, taking 2/3 from Philly, taking 2/3 at Texas, and then taking 3/4 if not sweeping Cleveland.

We're 2.5 games out of first. If you think that you can 7 out of your next ten, then more power to you. We'll be in first within 15 games.

0-5 vs the Red Sox

Starters ERA:

Joba: 3.76 ERA
Burnett: 5.02 ERA
Pettite: 4.18 ERA
Hughes: 7.06 ERA
CC (He's good): 3.43 ERA

Not likely they will continue to only let up 1 run (Yes u are hot but it won't last forever)

AverageIP/ Start
Joba: 5.74 IP/Start
Burnett: 6.5 IP/Start
Pettite: 6.4 IP/Start
Hughes: 4.24 IP/Start
CC: 7 IP/Start

When you only have 1 starter averaging 7 IP it means that you need to get 6 outs before you get to Mariano.

When things are going well you think your fine, but you still have a problem, your bullpen is pathetic, even today Coke did everything he could to choke it away.

If you don't fix the problem with a major overhaul, you are more likely to finish 4th than in 1st.

Don't be a homer, the Red Sox are better in every facet of the game than you.

[Dry1313]

0-5 vs the Red Sox

Have you ever heard of streaks? They're a big thing in baseball...

We might be 0-5 vs BOS, but we're 8-0 in our last 8.

Starters ERA:

Joba: 3.76 ERA
Burnett: 5.02 ERA
Pettite: 4.18 ERA
Hughes: 7.06 ERA
CC (He's good): 3.43 ERA

Not likely they will continue to only let up 1 run (Yes u are hot but it won't last forever)

This is stupid as hell. These ERAs prove MY point.

Burnett is a 3.75 ERA guy...so for his ERA to fall toward his average he will pitch better.

Pettite is where he should be, so is Joba, CC is going to drop to sub 3.

As far as Hughes, he K'd 9 tonight and I like him out of our pen.

AverageIP/ Start
Joba: 5.74 IP/Start
Burnett: 6.5 IP/Start
Pettite: 6.4 IP/Start
Hughes: 4.24 IP/Start
CC: 7 IP/Start

The only bad one here is Hughes, and Wang is back to form.

I don't even care about this, find me a team with starters averaging so much better than the Yankees 1-4

When you only have 1 starter averaging 7 IP it means that you need to get 6 outs before you get to Mariano.

Don't act like you know what you're talking about here:
A: We have an inconsistent pen, but not a bad one. Veras is dirty when he throws strikes, and Coke is unhittable when he gets ahead.

With Chicken Alfredo Aceves, Phil Hughes, and Brian Bruney leading the setup corps we'll be into October, easily.

When things are going well you think your fine, but you still have a problem, your bullpen is pathetic, even today Coke did everything he could to choke it away.

Coke sucks right now...but we're still winning.

If you're all about averages, Yankee pitching has to improve. If you're not, then look at our recent success.

If you don't fix the problem with a major overhaul, you are more likely to finish 4th than in 1st.

Don't be a homer, the Red Sox are better in every facet of the game than you.

David Ortiz hit his first homer of the year...are you serious?

Check out your SOS...SEA, CLE, OAK, TB...

KC and DET for us, and then basically an identical schedule...that's the funny thing.

Your team has maxed its potential and you aren't exactly setting the league on fire.

BTW, this was the most hypocritical quote I've ever seen.

[cjkalt]

Have you ever heard of streaks? They're a big thing in baseball...

We might be 0-5 vs BOS, but we're 8-0 in our last 8.

Congrats you can beat the Orioles, Minnesota and Toronto (who is not that good as we are showing now) whose combined record is 2 games under 500... real good competition

This is stupid as hell. These ERAs prove MY point.

Burnett is a 3.75 ERA guy...so for his ERA to fall toward his average he will pitch better.

Pettite is where he should be, so is Joba, CC is going to drop to sub 3.

As far as Hughes, he K'd 9 tonight and I like him out of our pen.

Burnett will be lucky if he sniffs 4... he'll be closer to 4.5 where he belongs in a real division.

Idk if CC will get to sub 3, but I am not arguing him... he is good. Even still Joba and Pettite aren't getting to the 7th inning, requires more bullpen work

The only bad one here is Hughes, and Wang is back to form.

I don't even care about this, find me a team with starters averaging so much better than the Yankees 1-4

Are you kidding me about Wang, he has a sinker that didn't sink in the rehab start, until that problem gets fixed he's terrible and will be terrible, he's not your savior. I said preseason he sucked, and he still does.

The Yankees are averaging 20th in the MLB according to Baseball Prospectus in IP/GS

Don't act like you know what you're talking about here:
A: We have an inconsistent pen, but not a bad one. Veras is dirty when he throws strikes, and Coke is unhittable when he gets ahead.

With Chicken Alfredo Aceves, Phil Hughes, and Brian Bruney leading the setup corps we'll be into October, easily.


Coke sucks right now...but we're still winning.

If you're all about averages, Yankee pitching has to improve. If you're not, then look at our recent success.

Even with your amazing hot streak, you are still 25th in bullpen era at 5.37... I define that as terrible... as opposed to Boston which is at 3.00.

David Ortiz hit his first homer of the year...are you serious?

Check out your SOS...SEA, CLE, OAK, TB...

KC and DET for us, and then basically an identical schedule...that's the funny thing.

Your team has maxed its potential and you aren't exactly setting the league on fire.

BTW, this was the most hypocritical quote I've ever seen.

Yep, we are 24-16, losing the #3 man in MVP voting last year and batting over .400 in Youk to the DL, our #2 starter since April 14th, not to mention we are on our 3rd string SS and with Ortiz sucking.

We also have made our 2 west coast trips, we are done for the YEAR, so enjoy all that flying too, and the SOS doesn't mean anything in early May. Toronto looks good but they've played no one.

When you rank 25th in bullpen era and 22nd in starters ERA, thats not a good sign at all. Our rotation isn't performing up to snuff but we have the 3rd best bullpen ERA to make up for it.

You have to solve the pitching before u can consider yourself AL East contenders

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Burnett will be lucky if he sniffs 4... he'll be closer to 4.5 where he belongs in a real division.

You know.....that's funny......because I recall him having a 4.07, 3.75, and 3.98 ERA..............IN THE SAME DIVISION HE'S IN NOW. And he was on one of the shitty teams, so that means he played all the good ones.

[cjkalt]

You know.....that's funny......because I recall him having a 4.07, 3.75, and 3.98 ERA..............IN THE SAME DIVISION HE'S IN NOW. And he was on one of the shitty teams, so that means he played all the good ones.

That doesn't include the New York Factor which affects every first year player... He'll be right about 4.5

[NYgiantsfan5689]

That doesn't include the New York Factor which affects every first year player... He'll be right about 4.5

Right.....his New York Factor. Forgot about that stat, thank you Mr. Sabermetrician for that one.

That's the worst ****ing argument for a player to have a worse year I have ever heard. That New York Factor is really affecting Mark Teixeira, man...

And that New York Factor......it's really getting to AJ. You know, with him having given up 3 ER or less in 5 of his 8 starts.....

My god.........."The New York Factor"...........honestly.......I really don't know what to say. Coming from an educated baseball person, I expect a lot better from you

[cjkalt]

Stats Yr Before Yankees/1st Year with Yankees

Alex Rodriguez

Year Before: .298 BA, .396 OBP .600 SLG 47 HR's 118 RBI's 124 Runs
1st Year: .286 BA, .375 OBP, .512 SLG 36 HR's 106 RBI's 112 Runs

Kyle Farnsworth

Year Before: 70 IP 2.19 ERA 16 SV's 19 HLD's
1st Year: 66 IP 4.36 ERA 6 SV's 19 HLD's

Johnny Damon

Year Before .316 BA 94.7 SB % 197 Hits Fielding Range: 2.93
1st Year .285 BA 71.4% 169 hits Fielding Range 2.56

Roger Clemens

Year Before 20-6 2.65 ERA 234.2 IP 271 K's 5 CG's 3 SHO
1st Year 14-10 4.60 ERA 197 IP 163 K's 1 CG 1 SHO

(Note: Great evidence for why AJ will be around 4.5 as well)

Other Names to cruel to post the stats: Pavan and LaTroy Hawkins


I could keep going but I think this proves my case.

[Dry1313]

Right.....his New York Factor. Forgot about that stat, thank you Mr. Sabermetrician for that one.

That's the worst ****ing argument for a player to have a worse year I have ever heard. That New York Factor is really affecting Mark Teixeira, man...

And that New York Factor......it's really getting to AJ. You know, with him having given up 3 ER or less in 5 of his 8 starts.....

My god.........."The New York Factor"...........honestly.......I really don't know what to say. Coming from an educated baseball person, I expect a lot better from you

Amazing

and for the record historical precedent means that you think it's a consensus. It isn't. Case by case basis. Want me to dig up Scott Brosius, or David Cone, or David Wells even? Maybe Mike Mussina?

There are arguments both ways for this

[cjkalt]

Amazing

and for the record historical precedent means that you think it's a consensus. It isn't. Case by case basis. Want me to dig up Scott Brosius, or David Cone, or David Wells even? Maybe Mike Mussina?

There are arguments both ways for this

You got any role guys like a Brosius, Cone, Wells, or even a Moose that you get in FA anymore, I was comparing superstars to superstars.

I agree those role guys probably did better cause they didn't have the expectations. These superstar guys do have those expectations so i was comparing them as such.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Role guys? How were Moose, Wells, Cone, and Brosius ROLE guys? They were all superstars when they were signed by NY

[cjkalt]

Role guys? How were Moose, Wells, Cone, and Brosius ROLE guys? They were all superstars when they were signed by NY

Moose I'll give you

Brosius? come on he batted .203 the year before he came to NY

Wells? 5.14 era... thats no burnett ERA

Cone prolly had some too, but was he a superstar? Debatable...

The guys i listed were surefire high expectation superstars like CC, Tex, Burnett

Now I'll agree CC is prolly more like Moose than the other guys

but for Tex and Burnett I think the comparisions hold

[browntown653]

Good thing Damaso Marte didn't get hit by the New York factor.

Also, Scott Brosius was never a superstar, or close to one.

[nyjunc]

I think that is very overrated, where they having fun a few weeks ago when they were struggling? You win you have fun and they are playin ggood baseball now.

[Dry1313]

Moose I'll give you

Brosius? come on he batted .203 the year before he came to NY

Wells? 5.14 era... thats no burnett ERA

Cone prolly had some too, but was he a superstar? Debatable...

The guys i listed were surefire high expectation superstars like CC, Tex, Burnett

Now I'll agree CC is prolly more like Moose than the other guys

but for Tex and Burnett I think the comparisions hold

Teixeira is a notorious slow starter.

Look at his career splits.

.249/.349/.433 in March/April with only 22 dingers and 74 RBI in 566 AB (those aren't his career averages...?)
Check out August:
.314/.398/.522 with 43 HRs and 136 RBI in 647 AB

SLOW STARTER. Next.

GF already debunked your shit on Burnett, and CC is legit.

Where's your damned New York Factor now?