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    Stats Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

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    SANCHEZ caught by CASTRO 65 ABs, allows 0 HRs and OPP SLUG%=292
    SCHNEIDER 108 ABs, allows 6 HRs and OPP SLUG%=454

    HEILMAN caught by CASTRO 50 ABs , allows 0 HRs and OPP SLUG%=340
    SCHNEIDER 195 ABs, allows 9 HRs and OPP SLUG%=456

    FELICIANO
    caught by CASTRO 36 ABs, allows 0 HRs and OPP SLUG%=306
    SCHNEIDER 134 ABs, allows 6 HRs and OPP SLUG%=455

    WAGNER
    caught by CASTRO 49 ABs, allows 0 HRs and OPP SLUG%=204
    SCHNEIDER 99 ABs, allows 3 HRs and OPP SLUG%=313

    SANTANA
    caught by CASTRO 333 ABs, allows 6 HRs and OPP SLUG%=297
    SCHNEIDER 524 ABs, allows 15 HRs and OP SLUG%=401

    PEDRO M
    caught by CASTRO 138 ABs, allows 2 HRs and OPP SLUG%=377
    SCHNEIDER 185 ABs, allows 15 HRs and OPP SLUG%=600!!!!!


    The above stats were posted on Adam Rubin's blog. They are unbelievable. I mean, I can't imagine that Brian Schneider would somehow be tipping pitches, but I also can't think of any other way that the stats would be so hugely different. I mean, HR's makes sense because Schneider catches more, but the slugging percentages are off by over 100 points! Any thoughts?

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    Re: Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

    Jesus......I've always said that catchers don't get enough credit for a pitchers' performance, and I guess going hand in hand with that is that they don't get enough blame for a pitchers' failure. And this shows it.

    Wow. I'd say stats like that, consistent across all pitchers, you have to believe. I mean...if it were only one or even two or 3 pitchers, I would take it with a grain of salt. But all 6 of those guys have slugging percentages SIGNIFICANTLY higher with Schneider. Wow...
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    Re: Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

    Pretty shocking analysis. My thoughts are Schneider has been disappointing.

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    Re: Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

    I mean, his expectations were low, and I know he had a bad year last year, but after seeing these numbers, I mean, it's disturbing. I don't have any idea how the numbers could be SO different. Especially since Schneider is considered a good defensive catcher. I just don't even know what to make of these stats, they're that hard to believe.

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    Re: Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

    Don't be so quick to discount the higher HR totals for a higher number of at bats. Here's some numbers I just did on a calculator based on what you posted:

    SANCHEZ: with CASTRO catching: 0 HR in 65 AB
    with SCHNEIDER catching: 1 HR every 18 AB's

    HEILMAN: with CASTRO catching: 0 HR in 50 AB's
    with SCHNEIDER catching: 1 HR every 22 AB's

    FELICIANO: with CASTRO catching: 0 HR in 36 AB's
    with SCHNEIDER catching: 1 HR every 22 AB's

    WAGNER: with CASTRO catching: 0 HR in 49 AB's
    with SCHNEIDER catching: 1 HR every 33 AB's

    SANTANA: with CASTRO catching: 1 HR every 55.5 AB's
    with SCHNEIDER catching: 1 HR every 35 AB's

    PEDRO: with CASTRO catching: 1 HR every 69 AB's
    with SCHNEIDER catching: 1 HR every 12 AB's (ouch)

    OVERALL: with CASTRO catching: 1 HR every 83.88 AB's
    with SCHNEIDER catching: 1 HR every 23 AB's


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    Re: Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

    Additionally:

    Mike Pelfrey
    With Schneider-552 AB, 6 HR, .379 SLG
    With Castro-142 AB, 3 HR, .345 SLG

    John Maine
    With Schneider- 373 AB, 13 HR, .402 SLG
    With Castro- 75 AB, 1 HR, .320 SLG

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    Re: Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

    Nelson Figueroa
    With Schneider- 61 AB, 2 HR, .459 SLG
    With Casanova(more AB's than Castro)- 87 AB, 1 HR, .310 SLG

    Claudio Vargas
    With Schneider- 72 AB, 3 HR, .444 SLG
    With Castro- 59 AB, 1 HR, .305 SLG

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    Re: Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

    I don't think a catcher has a huge impact on a pitcher...but these stats can't be any fluke. This is too significant to ignore.
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    Re: Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

    I usually don't think a catcher impacts a staff as a whole. I do believe that there are times where he can impact an individual pitcher...maybe 2, but to see that Schneider negatively impacted EVERY major pitcher on the Mets' staff? That's ridiculous.

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    Re: Could the Failure of the Bullpen be the fault of Brian Schneider?

    Maybe Castro is just a beast?!

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