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    Re: The List

    Updated the first post with the real list.

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    If anything, this should shut everyone up about *'s and throwing records out. The whole era was dirty and this is juts some of the names of players using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    If anything, this should shut everyone up about *'s and throwing records out. The whole era was dirty and this is juts some of the names of players using.
    While many did juice in the era, that doesn't take any sort of guilt off of them. It's not fair to all those who have remained clean in the game, which outweigh those who have not (in the grand scheme of things.)

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    lots of stuff on Clemens when he was playing in Toronto on page 216
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    I agree 100%. If they did it, they are guilty but we can't remove records or strip awards because they were playing against others that were doing the same thing. The whole era was dirty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    If anything, this should shut everyone up about *'s and throwing records out.
    Hahahahaha. Like anyone will stop. People are dumb and people will continue wanting to mark the stats of the roiders, continue wanting to throw records out because they'll think this list is complete and fully representative, without realizing that mitchell got all of this info from about 1% of people involved in the major leagues because the rest refused to talk.

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    I guess I'm just a dreamer. And you were right about Roberts. It was Bigbie that said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McKain View Post
    Hahahahaha. Like anyone will stop. People are dumb and people will continue wanting to mark the stats of the roiders, continue wanting to throw records out because they'll think this list is complete and fully representative, without realizing that mitchell got all of this info from about 1% of people involved in the major leagues because the rest refused to talk.
    Honestly, 1% is kind of generous. He re-used a ton of stuff from SI/ESPN/Local papers/etc.

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    Yeah. A lot of what Mitchell did was just try to find evidence for things we already knew, like the Jason Grimsley claims.

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    donald fehr.

    he certainly sounds like a turdball. as usual.
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    Hopefully more names to come in other forms. Time to expose them all.

    Still no signs that players like Griffey used, which I believe could ultimately leave him and a select number in an elite class of their own.
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    I was really surprised to see Donald Fehr "sell-out" the players on the list, but that is not a bad thing, IMO. He accepts the fact that baseball has a problem and something must be done to clean it up.
    As to the list, there are only a few names that are unexpected -- Chuck Knoblauch and Brian Roberts for 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyKash View Post
    I'm not surprised by any of those names. Except Rich Garces. I thought he was just fat.
    Your not suprised that Chuck Knoblauch was on the list?
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    nope, Buck.

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