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    Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com reports that the Reds have signed outfielder Jay Bruce to a six-year, $51 million contract extension.
    The deal also contains a club option for a seventh year that would bring the total worth to $63 million. Bruce was up for salary arbitration for the first time this winter and could have started down a path of negotiating raises each year. Instead he opted to cash in now, committing Thursday to an extended stay in Cincinnati. These deals often go well for both sides.
    Am I the only one surprised it is Bruce and not Votto get extended? I think Bruce deserved to get extended but not before Votto.

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    Re: Bruce, Not Votto, Get $$$

    Is the offseason over?

    Is there a deadline prior to him reaching free agency to extend Votto?

    Does extending Bruce make it impossible to extend Votto?

    I mean, Bruce may not be the MVP but he's still pretty damn good.
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    Joey Votto was an automatic resign this year. He isn't even up for arbitration yet. No reason to extend him if he's already under team control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo View Post
    Is the offseason over?

    Is there a deadline prior to him reaching free agency to extend Votto?

    Does extending Bruce make it impossible to extend Votto?

    I mean, Bruce may not be the MVP but he's still pretty damn good.
    Did you take your meds today?

    Can you overreact a little more?

    Does San Diego mean "whale's vagina" or Leo's vagina?

    I mean, it was an innocent question being asked but guess it offended you pretty damn hard.

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    Re: Bruce, Not Votto, Get $$$

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Am I the only one surprised it is Bruce and not Votto get extended? I think Bruce deserved to get extended but not before Votto.
    I dont have the direct quotes in front of me but Votto in past interviews doesn't seem like a guy to want to tie himself down to that sort of long term deal or hasn't thought about it. He's also a lot older (Bruce is 24, Votto is 27 wow I am actually OLDER than Votto by a few months) Votto's going to get his but I think he is more thinking about keeping the options open should he want to go home to play or wait to sign longer term deal. I mean he is the reigning MVP and we just saw Ryan Howard at what 32 signing a 7 year deal at 25 mil per. Votto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Howard in the NL.
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    Re: Bruce, Not Votto, Get $$$

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Did you take your meds today?

    Can you overreact a little more?

    Does San Diego mean "whale's vagina" or Leo's vagina?

    I mean, it was an innocent question being asked but guess it offended you pretty damn hard.
    I'm not on meds

    I was wondering the same thing about you

    I don't live in San Diego

    I'm hardly offended, I'm just curious what Joey Votto has to do with this and why it's being asked why he's not getting extended but Bruce is.
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    Re: Bruce, Not Votto, Get $$$

    Guys the answer to all this shenanigans is this: Votto's under team control this year and possibly next year, and if he's not under team control next year he'll at the very least go to arbitration. There's no reason to extend him right now. Therefore they didn't. I agree with Leo, I'm not sure why you're questioning why Votto isn't extended. They'll extend him at the earliest right before he goes to Arby. no need for hostility. Just the simple fact that there's no financial or contractual need for the Reds to extend Votto.
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    Re: Bruce, Not Votto, Get $$$

    Bruce and Votto are both up for Arbitration (Bruce qualified as a Super 2). The number being bandied about for Votto was 7-8 mil. Maybe Votto rather wait than to sign. I mean you're looking at a guy who the past couple seasons has been right up there with anyone in baseball (including Pujols) the Reds waited a season to long to possibly sign Votto to a long term deal... for now. And Votto from quotes I've read other places just hasn't thought about that long term yet.
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    Ah shit I read the contract list wrong. You win Slyder. Still stands though that there's a whole offseason to go
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    You said shenanigans. Nyyyyyahahahahahahaha
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    Re: Bruce, Not Votto, Get $$$

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo View Post
    I'm not on meds

    I was wondering the same thing about you

    I don't live in San Diego

    I'm hardly offended, I'm just curious what Joey Votto has to do with this and why it's being asked why he's not getting extended but Bruce is.
    How is wondering why the Reds didn't extend the MVP before Jay Bruce overreacting? Please indulge me

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    Re: Bruce, Not Votto, Get $$$

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    How is wondering why the Reds didn't extend the MVP before Jay Bruce overreacting? Please indulge me
    It wouldn't be if the book was already closed on whether or not Votto can be extended and/or if extending Bruce makes it so they cannot extend Votto.

    But neither of these are true, so asking why Bruce is getting extended and not Votto makes no sense.
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    All I said it I found it surprising they didn't lock up their MVP before Bruce. It does make sense! I am surprised by it and expressed that. God ****ing christ! How dare I?? It in no way did it deserve the response you gave.

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    Re: Bruce, Not Votto, Get $$$

    It makes perfect sense. It takes two to come to an agreement and perhaps they just haven't come to one with Votto yet.

    Do you expect them to tell Bruce "Sorry, dude, but we can't sign this until Votto agrees to his extension"

    That would make no sense.
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    Re: Bruce, Not Votto, Get $$$

    So you admit you were out of line? Good.

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