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Thread: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    QB Rating is flawed. All Pennington does is make the safe dump off passes or the quick button hooks and relies on his receivers to make the majority of the yards. Pennington is a decent QB who "will not lose games", but he's not the guy who's gonna pull a win out of his ass either....he's middle of the pack.

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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porter99 View Post
    Career Passer Rating Leaders - Pro-Football-Reference.com

    Pennington is 9th overall with a 90 Passer Rating which is higher than Farve's Career.
    And Dante Culpepper is 10th? So what! Am I now supposed to think Culpepper was good?

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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    And Dante Culpepper is 10th? So what! Am I now supposed to think Culpepper was good?
    He was good before his knee was shredded.
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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Good god! I give up!

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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by ljshorty89 View Post
    QB Rating is flawed. All Pennington does is make the safe dump off passes or the quick button hooks and relies on his receivers to make the majority of the yards. Pennington is a decent QB who "will not lose games", but he's not the guy who's gonna pull a win out of his ass either....he's middle of the pack.
    Active Yards per Pass Attempt Leaders - Pro-Football-Reference.com

    He's 8th on the active list for yards per pass attempt.

    And his 11.0 yards per pass completion is .1 lower than Drew Brees, but he's revered for his pass happy offense in N.O.

    And he still throws for 203 ypg, which is on par with Eli Manning.

    Isn't that what you want from a QB. Don't lose the game, don't turn the ball over, he doesn't have to be the guy to win out of nowhere. I can tell you after watching the 18 turnovers from JT O'Turnover this season. I'd rather have Pennington right now.
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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porter99 View Post
    He was good before his knee was shredded.
    He was really good with Minnesota, why is society so what did you do yesterday, he was good with Moss there, he just never recovered from that knee injury.

    But it looks like he'll be back with the Lions in no time so we'll see

    Trent Dilfer is a middle of the road QB, the didn't turn it over and won't win you games, Pennington however, has the talent to take a team down the field on his arm to win a game in the 4th quarter. Tom Brady was good his first couple years and all he did was throw intermediate passes and screens, only when they got Moss did they learn how to throw it deep consistently, and Pennington's arm isn't that bad

    The Jets are 3-3 with Farve and they'd be 3-3 with Pennington
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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Good god! I give up!
    Holy cow we agree about something(Culpepper).

    Quote Originally Posted by cjkalt View Post

    The Jets are 3-3 with Farve and they'd be 3-3 with Pennington
    The Jets are 4-3 w/ Favre and would be at worst 5-2 w/ Chad and likely 6-1. Favre is holding this O back and w/ a healthy Chad who knows this offense there islittle doubt we'd be better.

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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    He's hardly healthy so...........yeah. He's not that good. It will take a lot more than a 82 passer rating.
    Sure. Nitpick the lowest number of the bunch I provided.

    You've already proven to not know much about football.

    You should stick to being conceited about your baseball knowledge. At least there you actually have a right to be conceited for the most part.
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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by ljshorty89 View Post
    QB Rating is flawed. All Pennington does is make the safe dump off passes or the quick button hooks and relies on his receivers to make the majority of the yards. Pennington is a decent QB who "will not lose games", but he's not the guy who's gonna pull a win out of his ass either....he's middle of the pack.
    I do think passer rating is a bit overrated, but I'm also not in here calling Pennington an elite QB.

    I'm just calling him what he is, a good QB when healthy.
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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo View Post
    Sure. Nitpick the lowest number of the bunch I provided.

    You've already proven to not know much about football.

    You should stick to being conceited about your baseball knowledge. At least there you actually have a right to be conceited for the most part.
    You provided the lowest number twice. Not nitpicking. You are right that my football knowledge isn't the greatest but I do know Pennington is in the middle of the pack when it comes to football. Mediocrity is all he is about. Its like saying Melky Cabrera is good.

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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Charger fans keep telling themselves that Chad Pennington is a good QB so they can feel better about losing to the Dolphins.

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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by realmofotalk View Post
    Charger fans keep telling themselves that Chad Pennington is a good QB so they can feel better about losing to the Dolphins.
    Good observation.

    This explains why I've gone on constant tirades about the Chargers' shitty defense.

    It also explains why I'm telling everyone how good of a QB Jake Delhomme is.
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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    You provided the lowest number twice. Not nitpicking. You are right that my football knowledge isn't the greatest but I do know Pennington is in the middle of the pack when it comes to football. Mediocrity is all he is about. Its like saying Melky Cabrera is good.
    He's hardly the equivelent of Melky Cabrerra.

    He controls the game well and completes passes as displayed by his remarkable completion percentages (another stat you chose to ignore in favor of the 82 passer rating.)

    I'm not calling him Peyton Manning here, but he's hardly Trent Dilfer either.
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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Didn't ignore it. I can complete screen passes too.

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    Re: Does Favre make the Jets playoff contenders?

    Right. Because that's all the throws.
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