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    Re: The grinds my gears thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo View Post
    The fact that there is more time after one egregious error than the other doesn’t make the latter more egregious. That’s the entirety of my argument.
    I thought your argument was impact on the game and outcome, not severity of error.


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    Re: The grinds my gears thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    I thought your argument was impact on the game and outcome, not severity of error.
    It is.

    The amount of time left after the error doesn't negate the error's impact.

    The 4 points the Rams could have gotten shifted the entire complexity of the game.

    To deny that is foolish.

    Your argument was the Rams had more time to recover. Sure, but they wouldn't have to recover if errors weren't made.

    One error isn't any more or less egregious than the other and both had similar impacts.

    To say one play determined the game is dumb when multiple plays happened to create that moment to begin with...to include other referee errors.
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    Re: The grinds my gears thread

    The big thing is probably the thought of being able to overcome an earlier blown call... not so much the late ones.
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    Re: The grinds my gears thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo View Post
    It is.

    The amount of time left after the error doesn't negate the error's impact.
    Except it does.
    The 4 points the Rams could have gotten shifted the entire complexity of the game.

    To deny that is foolish.
    It could have and probably even did. We'll never know how. Maybe the Saints turtle up and it's not close. Maybe they come out guns blazing and are up by 10 points late. There are a wide range of outcomes. That's not the case on the PI non-call.

    Your argument was the Rams had more time to recover. Sure, but they wouldn't have to recover if errors weren't made.
    Same with the Saints.

    One error isn't any more or less egregious than the other and both had similar impacts.
    That's not true because one is much or of an outcome altering error.

    To say one play determined the game is dumb when multiple plays happened to create that moment to begin with...to include other referee errors.
    No one play determines a game in a vacuum, but the timing of things matters. If it didn't we wouldn't have WPA, or LI, or hell, even closers because a 1 run lead in the 6th is the same as a 1 run lead in the 9th based on what you're saying.

    Timing matters. If you need to be at a destination in 30 minutes, go the wrong way for 30 minutes, and need to recover you can't. If you need to be at a destination in 90 minutes, go the wrong way for 30 minutes, and need to recover, you can.

    Just like your chances of coming back from a 1 run deficit is different in the 6th inning than the 9th. That's not opinion, that's just simple math and understanding of probability.


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