Bonds trial to begin March 21st

[HollywoodLeo]

If steroids didn't help players wouldn't risk their careers and public reputation taking them.

[GiantsFanatic]

But is their evidence that validates that logic? What about taking steriods for preventing injuries to occur? By staying healthy helping their team and teammates win? And who cares about public rep? Kobe didn't care, and look at him now.

[zodious]

Yes, look at the # of HRs hit by bonds and McGuire after they "bulked up"

[HollywoodLeo]

Yeah there's evidence. despite even stricter rules in the face of public scrutiny Ryan Braun still did it. Why take that kind of risk if it doesn't help? We're not talking about recreational drugs here.

[GiantsFanatic]

McGuire hit 49 hr in his rookie year, Bonds his 46 in 93, their goes that logic.

[HollywoodLeo]

73 > 46

As for McGwire, he was allegedly taking them his entire career.

[GiantsFanatic]

Again I ask the question how can you prove steriods make you hit homeruns? Answer is you can't, because all your doing is assuming.

[padrefanforever]

LOL ....... And poof you have a Giant fan still trying to protect the biggest cheat in ML history.......And you wonder why this was a topic in here ? That someone on this planet still thinks they don't help is quite funny....

[GiantsFanatic]

I'm not the one making this thread to begin with or even bumping after a couple months, who's the idiotic dumb fuck now? You are.

[HollywoodLeo]

Of course I'm assuming. I'm not a scientist and I don't have enough pertinent data to actually perform a study.

But they're also not baseless assumptions. The players take steroids and suddenly start hitting more home runs?

You're happy living with plausible deniability. That's fine. But these players wouldn't risk their careers taking this stuff if it didn't benefit them somehow.

[HollywoodLeo]

LOL ....... And poof you have a Giant fan still trying to protect the biggest cheat in ML history.......And you wonder why this was a topic in here ? That someone on this planet still thinks they don't help is quite funny....

I still wonder why this topic is here when it's more relevant here.

[zodious]

I still wonder why this topic is here when it's more relevant here.

Thank you!

[padrefanforever]

I'm not the one making this thread to begin with or even bumping after a couple months, who's the idiotic dumb fuck now? You are.

I didn't bump it nipple head. So I guess you are alone at the top of that "dumb fuck" pillar. As usual.

And nobody has ever said "steriods make you hit homeruns", but if you are still too stupid to grasp that bigger, faster, stronger doesn't also = more power, and a greater chance to hit HR's, well then you should plug that head back into that hole on your backside.

To suggest that you can take joe schmo and roid him up he'll turn into a HR king is just stupid. But to think that taking a professional hitter who can already rake, jack him up on roids making him much stronger, and it wont have cause and effect ? That's even more stupid. But then again it's you

[GiantsFanatic]

Of course I'm assuming. I'm not a scientist and I don't have enough pertinent data to actually perform a study.

But they're also not baseless assumptions. The players take steroids and suddenly start hitting more home runs?

You're happy living with plausible deniability. That's fine. But these players wouldn't risk their careers taking this stuff if it didn't benefit them somehow.

That's my point, you can't prove it based on a single variable which is steroids makes you hit homeruns,

[HollywoodLeo]

Let's keep the name calling out of this.