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    Re: The Official Giants Offseason Thread

    Rather than go to Brent Lillibridge or Jordan Schafer, Braves GM Frank Wren wants to trade for a short-term option in center.
    Wren indicated that he has no plans to pursue Torii Hunter, Aaron Rowand or even Mike Cameron. A one-year signing of Corey Patterson or Kenny Lofton could be considered, but Wren would prefer a trade. David DeJesus and Coco Crisp look like possibilities.
    Please just take Dave Roberts!! We will eat half his salary just take him!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantsFan83 View Post
    Only way I want Arod here is if he decides to take a pay cut, with he wont so eff that. But I do disagree with your point that no one hasn't anything with him, if your reffering your rings then yes your right, if your reffering winning and making it to the playoffs, I disagree with that.
    Actually, Reefer was right about ARod. For one, the Yankees were winning and making playoff appearances long before ARod showed up, it didn't just start because he was signed by the Yankees.

    During his time in Seattle (1994-2000), the Mariners made the playoffs just 3 times (1995, 1997, 2000). Ironically enough, Seattle had their best season, as a franchise, the year after ARod left. In 2001, the team won 116 games.

    During his time in Texas (2001-2003), the Rangers never had a winning season.

    So to say that teams are winning when ARod comes around is not exactly accurate.
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    Re: The Official Giants Offseason Thread

    Do you know what Davis's status is? I mean is he projected to be an every day starter in CF for the Giants next year?


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    Re: The Official Giants Offseason Thread

    Right now Roberts is our CFer. If somehow they can move him, Lewis and Davis would be favored to fill the position.

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    Re: The Official Giants Offseason Thread

    It's official, Vizquel has been overpaid and is our SS.

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    Re: The Official Giants Offseason Thread

    Here's how our lineup looks today:

    1B- Ortmeier
    2B- Durham
    SS- Vizquel
    3B-Frandsen
    LF- Roberts/Schierholtz
    CF- Davis/Lewis
    RF- Winn
    C- Molina

    Gross!!

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    Re: The Official Giants Offseason Thread

    Giants GM Brian Sabean is open to bringing back free agent Pedro Feliz, but he isn’t looking to lock his team into another long-term deal.
    Sabean believes Feliz may get a three-year deal. "If that's the case," he said, "it's not going to be something that we'll pursue, at least at this time." The Giants haven’t made any noise about pursuing Mike Lowell and they don’t appear to be in on Alex Rodriguez at the moment. If they don’t retain Feliz, they might go after Mike Lamb or Mark Loretta to play third.
    Sabean just needs to let Feliz go. I don't see why ownership still has a boner for this guy. Lamb or Loretta would be an improvement but rather see someone better.

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    Nate Schierholtz homered and doubled Friday for Scottsdale of the Arizona Fall League.
    Two of his four homers came against an inferior Chinese National Team, but Schierholtz is hitting .300 in the AFL even with that game discounted. Overall, he's at .329/.347/.616 in 73 at-bats. He ranks third in the league in slugging and sixth in OPS.
    Giants might want to make a big splash for an OFer and giving Schierholtz a chance in LF. Hunter or Rowand would be ideal. Nate impressed in Sept. and I think he can make the squad and hit 15-20 homers. Having so many OFers gives some trade bait along with our pitching to get a really big bat.

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    To get a "really big bat", the name you'll have to start with is Tim Lincecum and Sabean has already said that he's not willing to move him. I don't think Lowry is going to get you what you want.
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    B.J. Upton: Upton is coming off his first full season and hit .300/.386/.508 with 24 homeruns and 82 RBI. He also had 22 stolen bases. Upton played 78 games in CF and 48 games at second. He has played third before but not that well. He is a guy without a position but is 23, good and available. Downside is he struck out 154 times. The Giants could try him at third or in the OF. This would be a good move for our future and we have plenty of what they are looking for and that's pitching.

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    Re: The Official Giants Offseason Thread

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    To get a "really big bat", the name you'll have to start with is Tim Lincecum and Sabean has already said that he's not willing to move him. I don't think Lowry is going to get you what you want.
    Lowry alone won't which is why I suggested the package deal. I do not want to see him go but if he helps get a 30 HR bat, I have to be for it. Pat Misch looked impressive and will be up for filling a spot in the rotation.

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    Lowry alone won't which is why I suggested the package deal. I do not want to see him go but if he helps get a 30 HR bat, I have to be for it. Pat Misch looked impressive and will be up for filling a spot in the rotation.
    I didn't see the package deal, who are you sending for a 30 HR bat besides Lowry?
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    You could send Winn, Hennessey, Durham, Lewis, Davis, Threets, Correia, Sanchez, Kline, and anyone else you want to throw on there in any combination. Lowry has been the Giants best pitcher over the past three seasons. Plus if we fill LF with Schierholtz we can just sign a big bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    You could send Winn, Hennessey, Durham, Lewis, Davis, Threets, Correia, Sanchez, Kline, and anyone else you want to throw on there in any combination. Lowry has been the Giants best pitcher over the past three seasons. Plus if we fill LF with Schierholtz we can just sign a big bat.
    I'd argue that Cain was your best pitcher last season, just couldn't buy any run support, or bullpen support for that matter.

    I wouldn't move Davis, he's an up and comer, at least he looked that way from what I saw of him last season.
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    v. Utah State W 38-27 (6-3, 5-1)

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    Re: The Official Giants Offseason Thread

    Updated list:

    Miguel Tejada-3B: He has played in the Bay Area so fans already know him and he would reunite with Zito. The shortstop position is available though he might have to play third. Tejada has been asking for a trade for a while and isn't happy in Baltimore. Tejada makes $26 million over the next two years left on his contract. The Giants would be getting younger and more production at the postion. His 2007 stats were .296/.357/.442 with 18 HRs and 81 RBI with just 55 SOs. Problem is the O's still want him so we would have to dazzle them. The Yanks are now lookin at him and have better pieces to get him.

    Torii Hunter-CF
    : The Giants need to get back to their roots combining power speed and defense behind good pitching. Hunter will fill this void every which way. He hit .287/.334/.505 with 28 HRs and 107 RBI while playing GG defense once again. Hunter also stole 18 bases and hit 45 doubles. Could you imagine this guy in our spacious outfield and the numbers he could put up? He is a great clubhouse guy and a leader. Problems lie in that teams he is familiar with are going to be throwing offers all offseason. Teams like the Rangers and White Sox. Bonds and Hunter are friends and I doubt Bonds is going to throw the Giants a bone. Last problem is the Giants have $68 million already committed the budget will be around $90 million. Trades are where we will probably have to go.

    Mike Lowell-3B
    : As you all may know I am tired of watching Pedro Feliz in a Giants uniform. He does possess a good glove but he has no on base ability and hits for low average. Mike Lowell does everything Feliz does and better. Lowell is coming off a great contract year hitting .324/.378/.501 with 21 HRs and 120 RBI. He still plays great defense and was named the MVP of the Red Sox. He also hit a lot of doubles which would be great for AT&T Park. It doesn't really matter if Arod opts out of his deal for Lowell to get big dollars. Lowell is about all there is on the market way ahead of Feliz. Lowell's a perfect #5 hitter and is a lot better than Feliz. Problem is like I said he is the MVP of the Red Sox and they would like to bring him back. He is also 33 years old so we would be getting older at the position. No more than a three year deal could be offered. Basically I just want anyone but Feliz over there. Aurilia too. If the Giants could afford him and some other pieces, he would be a great fit for this team. Defense and a guy who attacks the gaps is what the Giants need to go back to.

    Aaron Rowand-CF: The Giants need a CFer and I love the way this guy plays the game. Rowand plays all out and is in his prime. He is coming off a career season hitting .309/.374/.515 with 27 HRs and 89 RBI. He also had 45 doubles and plays GG defense. He too would love the spacious OF both defensively and offensively. He will be a cheaper option than most of other free agent CFers like Hunter and Jones. Like Lowell, he would make for a good #5 hitter because of his ability to hit the gaps. Problems arise when everyone needs a GG OFer. Phillies fans love him and he was a huge part of the team winning the NL East title so they might resign. It's either sign Rowand and trade Burrell or keep Burrell and let Rowand walk. Not a hard choice if you ask me. Giants need to focus really hard on this guy. He will get more than the $10/mil per year Matthews Jr. and Pierre got.

    Chris Duncan-RP
    : This is just speculation on my part basically because of the rocky situation in St. Louis. LaRussa looks to walk with Jocketty gone and if that happens, Dave Duncan is likely to leave too. If so, Duncan would not be too happy and could push for a trade. Plus the Cards don't really need him now with the emergence of Ankiel. He is a first baseman with 20-30 homerun power without a real position in STL. We have some young pitching to possibly lure him away. Duncan is also a lefty which this team needs at first. The Giants have the position he wants and have some pitching that St. Louis might like. Definitely something to look at if Dave Duncan is fired or steps down. I am leaving him in despite LaRussa staying just because he still doesn't have a full time position and the Giants have one for him.

    David Riske-RP
    : He just filed for free agency from the Royals where he had a 2.45 ERA and 52 SO's in 69 IP. He had a disappointing 2006 due to injuries but bounced back for a dreadful Royals team. Riske only made $2 mil and I would be fine with giving him a 2 yr/$7 mil deal with an option for a third year. We need a strong presence in our bullpen and Riske would be cheap and improve this bullpen.

    Miguel Cabrera-3B/OF
    : The Giants should seriously pursue Cabrera to fill either third or first. I want him at first or in the OF but not at third. He is terrible at third and maybe JT Snow could work with him at first. Cabrera will be 25 next season and is good for a 30 HRS, .300 BA and 100+ RBI. Lowry could be used in a package along with any number of guys. This is a very special player who the Giants can build there offense around now while he is cheaper than market value. Cabrera is right handed power hitter which this post Bonds era is going to need. We would have to do something special to out do the Yankees which is the down side.

    Jose Guillen-LF/RF
    : The Mariners turned down Guillen's option making him a free agent. Guillen hit .290/.353/.460 with 23 HRs and 99 RBI in a difficult home field. His career high in HRs is 31 and RBI is 104. He would be a good complimentary player behind power hitter. Guillen would make a great #5 hitter for this club. He also possesses a good arm even after having surgery on it. His mutual option with the M's was worth $9 mil so I think we could have him around $7-8 mil/yr for a 2-3 yr deal.


    B.J. Upton-3B/OF: Upton is coming off his first full season and hit .300/.386/.508 with 24 homeruns and 82 RBI. He also had 22 stolen bases. Upton played 78 games in CF and 48 games at second. He has played third before but not that well. He is a guy without a position but is 23, good and available. Downside is he struck out 154 times. The Giants could try him at third or in the OF. This would be a good move for our future and we have plenty of what they are looking for and that's pitching.

    Richie Sexson-1B
    : Sexson could be the diamond in the rough. He is coming off a horrible season and makes a lot of money so he won't cost much in a trade. We could possibly dump some salary like Aurilia on them if we take on some more salary. He made $14 mil last season and hit just .205/.295/.399 with 21 homers and just 63 RBI. He is owed $14 mil and is a FA after the 08 season. If he does well he can get him a good 3-4 year deal. I think he has a lot in the tank left and he still has an average of 37 HRs a season. Sexson won't cost a lot in a trade if we take on more salary of we can make a trade where they take on most of the salary. Either way it won't cost us anything of importance and gives us a big presence in this weak lineup. Oh yeah, he's right handed which is a huge plus in this ballpark. The Giants were interested in Sexson last season.

    Kerry Wood-RP: Wood is a gamble but he showed promise in the relief role. He had a 3.33 ERA with 24 SO's in 24 IP last season but only appeared in 22 games. Not much of a window to accurately judge a perfromance but he could impact this Giants bullpen. The bullpen is a key area to improve and Wood wouldn't be that costly. The Giants should offer nothing but a two year deal worth $5 mil. Problem is the Cubs will want to keep him and the Rangers are interested. Wood is a Texas boy so he is more inclined to go there. Giants have some good prospects to fill relief roles but are years away. Wood would be a good stop gap guy and can help sell tickets.

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