Padres trade for Aquilino Lopez

[HollywoodLeo]

nothing backs up his claim that "he's still very young, and it is possible to un**** yourself before you become washed up"?

or his claim that "he's doing something right so far.....and as long as your doing something right, you're far from washed up"

or his claim that "he's only posting some of the best #'s this spring"

because those are the only claims i've seen PFF make in regards to Brazelton in this thread, and they can be backed up either by his ST stats or by pure logic.

[padrefanforever]

Hollywood.......common sense and the powers of deductive reasoning fled most fans of SF years ago......those useful traits were replaced with an unwaivering blind love for a man that is now under MLB investigation for the use of performance enhancing drugs.......So does it really surprise you that logic escapes these same fans ?

[love_that_reefer]

nothing backs up his claim that "he's still very young, and it is possible to un**** yourself before you become washed up"?

or his claim that "he's doing something right so far.....and as long as your doing something right, you're far from washed up"

or his claim that "he's only posting some of the best #'s this spring"

because those are the only claims i've seen PFF make in regards to Brazelton in this thread, and they can be backed up either by his ST stats or by pure logic.

I was referring to the claim about Brazelton's brother jackass. Pure logic is not Pads' strong point anyway. I love how you guys think we only root for Bonds. There is a team out on the field and that's who we want to win. Bonds is not the only one under investigation, eberyone is including the Pads who have had more offenders than the Giants. Man I love bringing up that fact!

[HollywoodLeo]

the Padre "offenders" were man enough to admit to their wrong doings....even if it was a bit late.

One of them only tried it once, didn't even do it regularly.

[padrefanforever]

Hey......I've always maintained that Cami should be stripped of his MVP since it was tainted.......... just like current cheats should be stripped of everything they've accomplished on chemicals

[padrefanforever]

and for that matter any Padre found to be cheating should be given the boot.......... see how easy that is.........whew.........it's tough applying logic)

[love_that_reefer]

that's not logic

[padrefanforever]

to punish someone for doing something wrong is the logical thing to do......placing blinders over your eyes, and jamming your head into the sand and pretending that it never happened isn't.....

[love_that_reefer]

Getting factual proof is more logical.

[HollywoodLeo]

Getting factual proof is more logical.

then I guess everyone in MLB is innocent, except for those that were man enough to admit it.

[padrefanforever]

At this point YOU could be holding the smoking syringe and still wouldn't beleive it.....

[DirtyKash]

With his testicles having shrunken in size, Bonds is obviously not a man.

[padrefanforever]

lol

[Bear]

DirtyKash...How would you know Bonds testicles have shrunken in size. Most men do not spend time standing around looking at other men's testicles. My guess is, Bonds is more of a man, than people who make small minded comments. JMO

[DirtyKash]

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