Reds@Padres 5/22/08-5/25/08

[HollywoodLeo]

Doesn't it seem oddly strange to you that no matter how much the roster changes (Khalil and Giles being the only two who's been here since 2004) they all seem to have the same issues?

And that they all seem to still be at least decent on the road? (At least until this year)

There's only one constant in this equation.

[HollywoodLeo]

Yes, I know, Votto just closed the case.

I'm going to quit arguing this now.

I've been drinking and I'm bound to get a bit too sarcastic while stating my opinion, lol

[padrefanforever]

Stop acting like the Padres personnel isn't the biggest reason why as I've suggested...... You don't get to call it irrelevant now to make it fit your dying side.

And rookie Votto just made Petco look small ......

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[HollywoodLeo]

Stop acting like the Padres personnel isn't the biggest reason why as I've suggested...... You don't get to call it irrelevant now to make it fit your dying side.

As long as you quit pretending like I haven't acknowledged multiple times that that is a factor.

I think the difference is made to look much larger due to the personnel, but there's still a difference none-the-less.

As I've said since the beginning of this debate, if you think the fences are fine that's ok....I think I actually like it as is....but you can still do so while admitting that it's still harder to hit HRs there than elsewhere.

And rookie Votto just made Petco look small ......

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Votto's power talent notwithstanding, this is just as irrelevant to you pointing to Izturis's HR was.

Kaz Ishii hit a HR in PetCo once as well, and that's equally irrelevant.

A guy getting a good swing at one pitch is not an indicator of how easy it is or isn't to hit HRs in a park.

[padrefanforever]

I can't believe you just cried on another forum about this conversation .......why don't you just start wearing Giant gear for good now.

[padrefanforever]

A guy getting a good swing on A pitch....... :laugh......there are A LOT of guys getting A LOT of HR's in the 2nd smallest ballpark in the NLWest right now

[padrefanforever]

I think the difference is made to look much larger due to the personnel, but there's still a difference none-the-less.

This is all I've ever really said......I've always maintained that it plays fair, we just don't' have shit for personnel....and if we did Petco would NOT be at the bottom for HR's.......this is all, nothing more.......nobody has suggest it's a bandbox seriously......

[HollywoodLeo]

I can't believe you just cried on another forum about this conversation .......why don't you just start wearing Giant gear for good now.

That wasn't crying, that was just me going elsewhere to gripe about the bad timing in jest.

Sorry if you mistook the intent.

[HollywoodLeo]

A guy getting a good swing on A pitch....... :laugh......there are A LOT of guys getting A LOT of HR's in the 2nd smallest ballpark in the NLWest right now

Park size isn't what kills the fly balls, it's the marine layer.

And how come the fact that the pitcher serving up the ball to Votto sucks doesn't factor in?

[padrefanforever]

Is Ledezma the only pitcher giving up HR's ?

[HollywoodLeo]

This is all I've ever really said......I've always maintained that it plays fair, we just don't' have shit for personnel....and if we did Petco would NOT be at the bottom for HR's.......this is all, nothing more.......nobody has suggest it's a bandbox seriously......

I think it'd be in the lower half still, but there wouldn't be as drastic of a difference.

[HollywoodLeo]

Is Ledezma the only pitcher giving up HR's ?

Good point.

Shawn Estes is in line for a Cy Young award.

[padrefanforever]

That wasn't crying, that was just me going elsewhere to gripe about the bad timing in jest.

Sorry if you mistook the intent.

While you're whining over there......update your damn tracker....it's 2 weeks old

[padrefanforever]

Good point.

Shawn Estes is in line for a Cy Young award.

Trevor Hoffman hasn't given up any.......and would give up even less if you moved in the fences too

Pick a bullpen guy

[HollywoodLeo]

While you're whining over there......update your damn tracker....it's 2 weeks old

Good point.