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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    Tore my ACL and had surgery. I'm on crutches now. Can't work so I mostly drink and watch baseball all day and some push-ups sometimes

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    Re: Astros@Padres 8/17/07-8/19/07

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Loyalty goes both ways. When Peavy's time comes and they don't give him what he wants, he would be a fool not to go elsewhere. Any one of us would do the same thing. Peavy is a top five pitcher and deserves whatever he gets. Peavy's aren't just everywhere. Peavy cut them a deal once already and don't see him doing it again.
    I don't buy into the myth that the only way to show him "loyalty" would be to give him whatever George Steinbrenner, Ned Coletti, Aurturo Moreno, Cubs Owner du jour, etc dictate they "should" give him.

    Jake could be the next Nolan Ryan...it's simply not financially sound for a team in the market the Padres play in to give that much to one player. Especially one that only helps them once every 5th day.

    If Jake's in it for the highest contract he'll be offered I'm already considering him gone and just enjoying the ride while it lasts.

    That being said, they obviously shouldn't low ball him and expect him to sign whatever they put in front of him....but I also don't expect them to do that.
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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    Class, did any of you learn ANYTHING by that waste of an hour with Sandy Alderson yesterday?
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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    Alderson is such a spin doctor and has zero clue how to conduct an interview on the radio. At times he sounds defensive and insecure and at other times he pretends he doesn't know the numbers or stats - This coming from the CEO and officical Stat Geek.

    He is a liar and this is the exact reason why I dont trust the Padres' front office or John Moores. They are lying about revenue and are making money hand over fist. They have the resources to make the team better but for some reason at this date and time don't want to do so.

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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by mooreofthesame View Post
    Alderson is such a spin doctor and has zero clue how to conduct an interview on the radio. At times he sounds defensive and insecure and at other times he pretends he doesn't know the numbers or stats - This coming from the CEO and officical Stat Geek.
    I could care less as long as he knows how to run a baseball team.

    Quote Originally Posted by mooreofthesame View Post
    He is a liar and this is the exact reason why I dont trust the Padres' front office or John Moores. They are lying about revenue and are making money hand over fist. They have the resources to make the team better but for some reason at this date and time don't want to do so.
    What resources do they have? Tell me what they can do that they're not doing.

    Don't you think that if they had a resource they'd be using it?

    Moores is not a stupid person. If he had a resource available to him to make more money on his business don't you think he'd use it?
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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    Add to that a very good point, that for the first many years of the park they are paying a butt load in interest taxes, that will go away over time, but for now it is a cost that many other teams dont have. I also appreciated the point he shared about the revenues we get compared to what a simililar market as Seattle gets in Television revenue. 6 times more is a pretty big jump and alone could pay for one players salary.

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    Re: Astros@Padres 8/17/07-8/19/07

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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    On the comment that Sandy Alderson made yesterday, saying that Moores didn't mean what he said about "bringing a big name player in to San Diego to give this franchise some financial stability". The columnist that Moores made that comment to, Barry Bloom of MLB.com, will be on Too Much Show tomorrow to talk about that interview.
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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDawg27 View Post
    I also appreciated the point he shared about the revenues we get compared to what a simililar market as Seattle gets in Television revenue. 6 times more is a pretty big jump and alone could pay for one players salary.
    That was a good bit of information, something I wasn't aware of either. I never would have guessed that Seattle would get 6x the revenue that San Diego gets from it's Television market.
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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    Anyone who took Moores' comment at face value was obviously doesn't know Moores that well
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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by mooreofthesame View Post
    He is a liar and this is the exact reason why I dont trust the Padres' front office or John Moores. They are lying about revenue and are making money hand over fist. They have the resources to make the team better but for some reason at this date and time don't want to do so.
    Can you prove that? Look, we all have had assumptions about what this front office can or can't do, but that's all we have, assumptions. If there was a fact that said Moores was making more money than what he puts into this team, don't you think it would have come out already?
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    Re: Astros@Padres 8/17/07-8/19/07

    I'm sure Moores does make more money than what he puts into the team.

    That's what the business world calls "making a profit" and it's kinda the bottom line goal of any business.

    That being said, if he were making substantially more than what he's putting in there'd be a valid issue from a fan's P.O.V.
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    Re: Jake doesn't think he'll be a Padre in 2 years.

    The Business Of Baseball - Forbes.com

    Check out that site....I found it interesting as far as what the current value of the team is. The Padres are ranked 16th in baseball in total value, but are 2nd to last, in front of the Yankees, in Operating Income.
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    Re: Astros@Padres 8/17/07-8/19/07

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo View Post
    I don't buy into the myth that the only way to show him "loyalty" would be to give him whatever George Steinbrenner, Ned Coletti, Aurturo Moreno, Cubs Owner du jour, etc dictate they "should" give him.

    Jake could be the next Nolan Ryan...it's simply not financially sound for a team in the market the Padres play in to give that much to one player. Especially one that only helps them once every 5th day.

    If Jake's in it for the highest contract he'll be offered I'm already considering him gone and just enjoying the ride while it lasts.

    That being said, they obviously shouldn't low ball him and expect him to sign whatever they put in front of him....but I also don't expect them to do that.
    Well don't buy into the myth because no one brought up this so called myth. I said they should give Peavy what HE asks for as the Padres will have the first shot at Jake. That's loyalty.

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    Re: Astros@Padres 8/17/07-8/19/07

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Well don't buy into the myth because no one brought up this so called myth. I said they should give Peavy what HE asks for as the Padres will have the first shot at Jake. That's loyalty.
    There's a fine line between loyalty and stupidity.

    To just blindly give him what he asks for would be stupidity if he were to, say, ask for 30 mil per year.

    Not saying that he will ask for that, or even close to that, but to say they should "show loyalty" and equate that to giving him whatever he asks for implies that they're not being "loyal" if he were to ask for that and they were to subsequently turn it down....as they should if he asked for that.

    I think the Padres can display "loyalty" to Jake Peavy without giving him anything and everything he asks for.
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