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    And I don't care what the Nats want for Livan Hernandez I would not want to trade Cesar Carillo for Adrian "one hit wonder" Beltre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo
    seems to me he's a top 88 prospect...or at least that's what Baseball America says.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...22top100b.html
    Reading comp, anyone?

    Hardly top 100 = #88.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo
    And I don't care what the Nats want for Livan Hernandez I would not want to trade Cesar Carillo for Adrian "one hit wonder" Beltre.
    There are a hundred more examples out there. The Nats are demanding 2 top tier prospects and one more player so the team can have Alfonso Soriano for two months. If the Yankees want anyone who will be a contributor on that team they'll have to part with Phillip Hughes. The Phillies want a Jon Lester type for Bobby Abreu. This is getting redundant. Hell, the M's traded one of their five best prospects for a LH specialist. When you're a buyer you hardly ever get equal value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarinersFan87
    Reading comp, anyone?

    Hardly top 100 = #88.
    Math comprehension, anyone? 88 < 100
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarinersFan87
    There are a hundred more examples out there. The Nats are demanding 2 top tier prospects and one more player so the team can have Alfonso Soriano for two months. If the Yankees want anyone who will be a contributor on that team they'll have to part with Phillip Hughes. The Phillies want a Jon Lester type for Bobby Abreu. This is getting redundant. Hell, the M's traded one of their five best prospects for a LH specialist. When you're a buyer you hardly ever get equal value.
    You're not seriously comparing Adrian Beltre to Alfonso Soriano and Bobby Abreau, are you?

    edit: and i'm not even disputing that it may or may not take Carillo to get Beltre...just saying that if that's what it takes then **** Beltre I don't want to do it.
    I'd much rather stick with Blum/Bellhorn/Leone
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo
    Math comprehension, anyone? 88 < 100
    Really? Damn.

    Considering that 1 is the best prospect, and 100 is the worst, hardly making the top 100 is in fact being about 88.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarinersFan87
    Really? Damn.

    Considering that 1 is the best prospect, and 100 is the worst, hardly making the top 100 is in fact being about 88.
    perhaps you meant "barely" and not "hardly"

    Stating that someone is "hardly a top 100 prospect" insinuates that not only is that person not in the top 100, but that he's nowhere near it and people are dumb to insinuate as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo
    You're not seriously comparing Adrian Beltre to Alfonso Soriano and Bobby Abreau, are you?
    No. Are you seriously comparing Phillip Hughes and Jon Lester to Carrillo?

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo
    edit: and i'm not even disputing that it may or may not take Carillo to get Beltre...just saying that if that's what it takes then **** Beltre I don't want to do it.
    I'd much rather stick with Blum/Bellhorn/Leone
    Ok. And I'm just saying that when you are selling a player then you try to get value for him, we're not going to give away Beltre for scraps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo
    perhaps you meant "barely" and not "hardly"

    Stating that someone is "hardly a top 100 prospect" insinuates that not only is that person not in the top 100, but that he's nowhere near it and people are dumb to insinuate as such.
    Touche.

    It still makes sense in my mind, but I can see what you are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FmrFresnan
    Rosenthal seems to think the Padres are hoping he regains his former NL West form....unlikely. I'm with you, I'd much rather have a guy like Ensberg.
    Beltre would be my first option, but, while in reality, I think Ensberg is out best fit.

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    to be quite honest I think the Mariners are more apt to trade Beltre than the Astros are to trade Ensberg.
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    Unfortunately, it's sounding more and more like the Astros are not going to part with Morgan Ensberg. Here are a few names that I've heard that the Padres could have interest in....

    Ronnie Belliard
    Aaron Boone
    Joe Randa (again)

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    @ New Mexico State

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    I heard the Wilson Betimet talks are up again.
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    Only problem with that is, the Braves want Scott Linebrink in return, and I would hope the Padres would want more in return than just Betemit.
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