View Poll Results: Which is the best pitching duo in baseball?

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  • Padres (Young and Peavy)

    5 17.24%
  • DBacks (Webb and Haren)

    12 41.38%
  • Mets (Santana and Pedro Martinez)

    1 3.45%
  • Mariners (Bedard and Hernandez)

    4 13.79%
  • Indians (Carmona and Sabathia)

    5 17.24%
  • Other (specify)

    2 6.90%
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Thread: Pocket Aces

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    I was going to post this when I had the approval to do so. But LOL at everyone reppin the publisher.
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    MSL: St Louis Cardinals 2013-present (2734-2936 regular season, 5 division titles, 2 championships)
    TSSL: Seattle Mariners 2006-2029, Pittsburgh Pirates 2030-present (209-277, 5 division titles w/SEA, 1 championship w/SEA)

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    Quote Originally Posted by OrioleMagic View Post
    Just out of curiousity... I know what the 5 tools of a hitter are... What are the 5 tools of a pitcher?
    Stuff, Control, Composure, Strikeout Ability, Fielding.
    Quote Originally Posted by General View Post
    Stuff, Control, Movement, GB% and Endurance.

    :P
    Endurance? Not really. GB%? Well that's nice, but no. Movement is essentially K Ability.
    Quote Originally Posted by nick View Post
    Going with Seattle... will explain why later, but dry nails the basics...
    Yes.

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    I want to make a follow up article to this to see how far back I can see this trend in history.
    2003 Hybrid World Champion (115-47 reg season, 11-4 playoffs)

    TBL: Anaheim Angels 2006-present (238-244 regular season, 1 division title)
    MSL: St Louis Cardinals 2013-present (2734-2936 regular season, 5 division titles, 2 championships)
    TSSL: Seattle Mariners 2006-2029, Pittsburgh Pirates 2030-present (209-277, 5 division titles w/SEA, 1 championship w/SEA)

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    Not even an honorable mention nod for Kazmir and Shields?

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    or Beckett and Dice-K?

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    Dice-K has to post something better than a 4.40 ERA before he can have his name mentioned amongst the likes of those in the poll options.
    LeagueTeamyearsRecordWild CardDivisionPennantsTitles
    MSLSan Diego Padres2034-20592,217-1,9951631
    TBLArizona Diamondbacks2005-20181,216-1,0531963
    TSSLSan Diego Padres2015-2021, 2024-20281,017-9280732
    TSSLTexas Rangers2029-2033396-4140000

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    I will say Young and Peavy right now, but easily, if Seattle had run support in a year or two it would easily be Seattle

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    You say that like as though Peavy or Young get any run support.
    LeagueTeamyearsRecordWild CardDivisionPennantsTitles
    MSLSan Diego Padres2034-20592,217-1,9951631
    TBLArizona Diamondbacks2005-20181,216-1,0531963
    TSSLSan Diego Padres2015-2021, 2024-20281,017-9280732
    TSSLTexas Rangers2029-2033396-4140000

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    Beckett and Dice K are formidable but they are not on the level of the above metioned. Kazmir and Shields......Cmon now.
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    TBL: Anaheim Angels 2006-present (238-244 regular season, 1 division title)
    MSL: St Louis Cardinals 2013-present (2734-2936 regular season, 5 division titles, 2 championships)
    TSSL: Seattle Mariners 2006-2029, Pittsburgh Pirates 2030-present (209-277, 5 division titles w/SEA, 1 championship w/SEA)

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry1313 View Post
    Mariners. If your sole knock is injury worries, well than, that's silly.

    Both can K 250. Both can have a WHIP of 1. Both can have 225 IP. Both can have ERAs of 3.

    They are also the youngest.
    Real silly wasn't it

    I hope General will bless us with his presence and write another good article.

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Real silly wasn't it

    I hope General will bless us with his presence and write another good article.
    Um I wrote that article not General.
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    TBL: Anaheim Angels 2006-present (238-244 regular season, 1 division title)
    MSL: St Louis Cardinals 2013-present (2734-2936 regular season, 5 division titles, 2 championships)
    TSSL: Seattle Mariners 2006-2029, Pittsburgh Pirates 2030-present (209-277, 5 division titles w/SEA, 1 championship w/SEA)

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    My deepest apologies Porter!! I read it wrong. It says General published it. So sorry but it would be an interesting article to follow up.

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    Re: Pocket Aces

    I did a second part spanning the 80's thru 2006.

    http://www.strike3forums.com/forums/...ru-2006-a.html

    It gets more difficult when you go further back into time. Ill attempt to the 60's and 70's sometime next week. But thats a different era from the live ball era.
    2003 Hybrid World Champion (115-47 reg season, 11-4 playoffs)

    TBL: Anaheim Angels 2006-present (238-244 regular season, 1 division title)
    MSL: St Louis Cardinals 2013-present (2734-2936 regular season, 5 division titles, 2 championships)
    TSSL: Seattle Mariners 2006-2029, Pittsburgh Pirates 2030-present (209-277, 5 division titles w/SEA, 1 championship w/SEA)

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