I disagree with you, deal with it!
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Originally Posted by joek
Jason Giambi has proven he can get a most meaningful hit in a very meaningful game. Arod has never accomplished that feat. The purpose of the WIN METHOD was to disect stat achievers from the players that truly play for and help a team win. Eliminate the $$ factor. do you think the Rangers would give up Sorianno to get Arod back? Not a chance in hell.
When was Jason Giambi's last big hit? Last one I remember is the 2 HR Game in the 2003 ALCS. But that was a different Giambi (thats for another thread.) There more reasons than just money as to why the Rangers want nothing to do with A-Rod.
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Originally Posted by joek
My post does speak for itself. Arod and Mussina, although talented, are not WIN METHOD players. Stop and ask yourself a question, but you will also have to think for a minute. Don't you think if the WIN METHOD was not real, I would not just say every YANKEE is a WIN METHOD player, or at least pick a couple of subs as non WIN METHOD, than tell you Arod and Mussina? The point being, just because a player attains gaudy individual stats, does not mean he helps his team. In the misleading confused blinding world of stats, it may. But not in the real world.
Obviously the WIN Method is real because we're talking about it. I just think it doesn't apply itself well to evaluating an individual player's talent. As opposed to say the 5-tool Method. I find a lot of truth in your theory, namely that stats can be misleading. But the horse is already out of the barn on that one. Bill James is way ahead of you on that, so he'd probably appreciate it if you stopped claiming responsability for that revalation.
I also agree that winners usually reproduce their success. This is useful on the free agent market when evaluating two players of seemingly similar value. I don't think, however, that you can apply this method to young players who haven't been tested in a pressure situation. If you think it can, give me a name of a young WIN Method ball player for me to keep an eye on. Someone not in the Big Leagues perhaps?