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    Reds Cover your eyes Dry! Bubba rips the Yanks

    I'm completely stunned this article hasn't been posted yet in the Reds forum, being that...it's an article about the Reds. SLACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111

    SARASOTA, Fla. - When Bubba Crosby walked into the Reds clubhouse at the City of Sarasota Sports Complex for the first time, he saw something he wasn't really used to, guys hugging each other and talking about dinner plans.

    Crosby, who spent the last three years with the New York Yankees, wasn't used to seeing such a level of camaraderie.

    Monday's drama in Tampa was that Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter aren't best friends. In Sarasota, Ken Griffey Jr. and Adam Dunn were ganging up on Ryan Freel and busting up the entire clubhouse in laughter.

    "That's something we lacked in New York. It felt like everyone would go their own separate ways. Here guys go out and do things together," said Crosby, who was signed to a free agent contract in the off-season. "I think that's a huge part of the game. The Yankees have had $200 million-plus payrolls the last few years. Money doesn't mean championships all the time. You look at St. Louis, it looks like the guys love each other and hang out."

    Even though position players aren't required to report until Thursday, most of the Reds regulars are already in Sarasota and have been for a while, just hanging out in the clubhouse and working on their own. They're here to work on their skills, but also because they want to be here and enjoy being here.

    "We have a bunch of guys who screw around when it's time to screw around and be serious when it's time to serious," said pitcher Aaron Harang. "That makes it more fun to come to work every day."

    It didn't take too long for Crosby to feel as if he fit in, getting invited to dinner by other players and joining in the clubhouse jokes.

    "I've just been here five days, and everyone's been accepting to people coming in," Crosby said. "The staff and everyone have been great."

    Crosby isn't just happy to be with the Reds for the clubhouse hijinks, but because after becoming a minor league free agent following the 2006 season, he wanted to find a place where he could play his style of baseball.

    Because the 5-foot-11 Crosby is fast, loves to run and is a good bunter, he knew he wanted to play in the National League, and he found Cincinnati to be the best fit.

    "Even being a fifth outfielder for a National League team, you're going to get three times as many at-bats as I would if I were with the Yankees again," Crosby said. "It's exciting to know I can play my game. Sometimes I'd get the green light, but I'd get the stare from Joe (Torre) that said I better be sure. Then you hesitate and just wait for (Hideki) Matsui to hit a two-run homer."

    In three seasons with the Yankees, Crosby never had more than 100 at-bats in a season, despite appearing in as many as 76 games for New York in 2005. He stole just nine bases in his three seasons, despite stealing 106 in the minors.

    Crosby, who can play all three outfield positions, was used primarily as a defensive player, either starting or coming in late in the game to shore up the defense. In the 2005 American League Division Series, he started in center field for three of the five games. He went 2-for-3 with an RBI in Game 5, but was pulled for pinch-hitter Ruben Sierra in the eighth inning of a Yankee loss.

    "I think I just got labeled with the Yankees as a utility outfielder. I never got a chance to hit a whole lot in New York," Crosby said. "There they used two extra outfielders, they had an offensive guy, which was Bernie (Williams) last year, and a defensive one, which was me. I'd go out and do my part, but if my spot came in the order to hit, Bernie would hit for me."

    Spotty at-bats hurt his timing, Crosby said, which hurt his numbers. He hit .207 last season (18-for-87) and .276 in 2005 (27-for-98). It's not that he can't hit, Crosby said, it's that he hasn't been given a chance. Not many players get called up to the big leagues to be outfield defensive specialist. Crosby hit .361 in Class AAA Las Vegas in 2003 before being called up the Dodgers and then traded to New York. He's a career .279 hitter in the minor leagues.

    "I hit every spring training. I got to the big leagues with the Dodgers because I could hit," Crosby said. "I was ready to see what I can do, hitting. I knew I could go out there in spring and lead the whole camp in hitting and it wouldn't matter, I'd still be the fifth outfielder. It's nice to go to an organization that if you produce, you're going to play."
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    wtf...I didn't give this a Nationals thing (???)

    somebody please remove that and put up a Reds one
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    per Trent's blog:

    This is a Reds blogger who did the Crosby interview. Here is what he has to say on the incident.

    SARASOTA, Fla. -- From the folks who brought you the Earth-shattering news that Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez don't spend every night doing each other's hair and roasting marshmellows over an open fire... Here comes the latest mountain out of a molehill -- my story from today's Post about Bubba Crosby

    Apparently Bubba "ripped" Torre and the Yankees. That's funny, I'm the guy who talked to Bubba and wrote the story. Bubba certainly didn't go
    Sheff on Torre or the Yankees
    but from the Yankee bloggers (NY Daily News and The Journal News) you'd think Bubba relieved himself in Monument Park.

    Here's a clarification I didn't think I needed to make, but apparently I do -- Bubba wasn't blasting Torre or the Yankees, he was just talking about the different role he could play on a National League team. He more than understood his role with the Yankees and was fine with it, but he wanted to see if he could do something more. Here's a quote I didn't use in the story, but is more representative of the tone of the interview:



    "It was an honor that Joe had enough faith and trust in me to throw me out there. In 05 I started three of the five games of the postseason. But if an offensive situation came up and it was me or Bernie Williams, Bernie was going to hit. I understood that role."

    I feel bad for Bubba, 'cause when the Yankees and Reds meet in Tampa on March 7, Bubba is going to get ambushed. I just hope Brit does something wacky to avert some of the attention.
    http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/spring/

    Sounds like it was just a big misunderstanding to me. I am not trying to defend Crosby by any means, but it seems like he is just getting called out for a whole lot of nothing.

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    I'm assuming it was you who changed it to a Reds logo, so thanks for that.

    As for Crosby, I always liked him with the Yankees and I'm sure he didn't mean to intend any harm. But a team built like the Yankees were in '05 sure wasn't going to have a big need for a light-hitting, defensive first OF. Maybe times have changed somewhat but I hope Crosby gets a fresh start and a new opportunity with the Reds. Thanks for the clarification redsr. And I only made the title the way I did to get Dry's attention.
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    BTW...the Nationals logo is still there on the Yankees page and when I view the new posts for some reason.
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    not to justify the twisting of this story, but bubba shouldve kept his mouth shut about his previous organizations and just talked about his new role within the reds organization that he was happy with. still, sounds like this got twisted quite a bit and bubba will definitely get the short end of the stick, sadly. on the other hand though, hes not a yankee anymore, dont really care what kinda lambasting hes gonna get from the new york papers... he probably shouldnt either, come to think of it.

    by the way, tried to fix the nationals-reds thing, but alas, it still comes up as the nationals outside of this post.

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    That's cause you gotta edit thread and not edit post to change the main logo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    not to justify the twisting of this story, but bubba shouldve kept his mouth shut about his previous organizations and just talked about his new role within the reds organization that he was happy with. still, sounds like this got twisted quite a bit and bubba will definitely get the short end of the stick, sadly. on the other hand though, hes not a yankee anymore, dont really care what kinda lambasting hes gonna get from the new york papers... he probably shouldnt either, come to think of it.

    by the way, tried to fix the nationals-reds thing, but alas, it still comes up as the nationals outside of this post.
    Weird, thanks for trying though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General View Post
    That's cause you gotta edit thread and not edit post to change the main logo.
    good call man

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    Sweet, now I don't feel like an idiot anymore.
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    Ah he didn't rip the Yanks...he's right.

    We've been a stuffy boring team, but with Cano and Melky here, I think that's passing a bit.

    Although the Reds ****ing around hasn't really won them much in the playoffs in the past couple of years...

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