2052/53 FA compensation

[OrioleMagic]

I should have edited that. In fact, there's a lot of stuff I need to edit in that.

I lowered the age criteria a year or two later.

Is there a thread somewhere that has the FA comp rules all in the first post? That was the only thread I could find...

[HollywoodLeo]

I don't have a problem with older players getting comp but I think changing the rules this late in the season is pretty B/S

The only one getting hurt by this rule change is myself for not demanding as much as I could have with Gehrig

But, as I said, nothing's official here. I'm kind of thinking out loud as I go. I just wanted to get the list out there.

[HollywoodLeo]

Is there a thread somewhere that has the FA comp rules all in the first post? That was the only thread I could find...

No. But I'll create one before next season.

I've kinda winged this on a year by year basis, which is bad for business I suppose. I'll organize it more soon.

[HollywoodLeo]

I don't have a problem with older players getting comp but I think changing the rules this late in the season is pretty B/S

Looking at my quote there for a second, more specifically this part of #2

"...since most GMs won't re-sign them under those circumstances anyway."

If the GM shows he is willing to re-sign him but fails, and then the market shows they're willing to do it...I like my last idea I just posted even more now.

[OrioleMagic]

Actually, the more I think about it (and don't shoot me, OM, lol) it should probably be based less on what the GM offers and more off what the market offers.

In other words, if I receive long-term offers for Gehrig in free agency then he warrants it. If the market determines nobody wants to take that gamble in spite of his performance due to age then maybe not.

Or I can combine the two and decide on a minimum number of long term offers that are required and the extension offer can count as one of them?

I can't agree with this, because there are more than one GM who will go after that FA and overpay. I stand by the notion that the compensation should be more based on how willing the original GM was in his efforts to keep the player.

(and I won't shoot you! LOL. If you feel it's best to stay consistent with whatever the current age limit rule is that everyone else seems to know... LOL I will live with my lost pick. I did and still do accept that risk.)

[Kingdom]

That's your decision for trading a first for him. You knew the age requirements for FA compensation. If Gehrig gets compensation why not every other player over the age of 33? That would just start problems.

I don't have a problem with older players getting comp but I think changing the rules this late in the season is pretty B/S

Actually, I agree strongly with both points after thinking about the situation for a moment.

[PhillyFan]

I just feel if this was someone else with Gehrig you really wouldn't care so I'm not a fan of you making a big deal about this.

I think Gehrig should receive some compensation but no way type A. He should get like a 4.0 cause of his age. I know his ratings are great but we have no idea if he'll just randomly die soon. I respect anything Leo decides cause I haven't had a problem with anything he has done so far.

[HollywoodLeo]

I can also go with the option of not invoking this this year, leaving out Oh and Gehrig regardless, and opening it next year.

As I said, nothing's official, but my thought process on the matter regarding making it instantaneous was that if I'm going to allow it for older players on the grounds that the GM was willing to take the risk anyway, what's more honest? The GM who tried to sign him long term not knowing if he'd get comp or the GM who tries to sign hm long term knowing he has to do so to have a chance at comp?

[cjkalt]

I can't agree with this, because there are more than one GM who will go after that FA and overpay. I stand by the notion that the compensation should be more based on how willing the original GM was in his efforts to keep the player.

(and I won't shoot you! LOL. If you feel it's best to stay consistent with whatever the current age limit rule is that everyone else seems to know... LOL I will live with my lost pick. I did and still do accept that risk.)

Still think we could resolve this by using a qualifying offer system (1 yr 18 mil for Type A, 1 yr 12 mil for type B, 1 yr 9 mil for Type C) and then sacrificing 1st rounder (11-24) or 2nd rounder (1-10) if someone else signs Type A, 2nd Rounder for Type B, and created spec for type C

[Kingdom]

I don't like the idea that Gehrig could receive as much comp as Chipper will next year, to be perfectly honest. And I've tried resigning Chipper after every sim. So, do I get any bonus points for making every attempt to do whatever I could to sign my guy?

[HollywoodLeo]

That might be good in theory but I can't force a pending free agent to take a 1 year deal and I'm not going to make a habit of manually editing contracts to make that work.

And 99 times out of 100 a pending free agent is going to turn down a 1 year offer if you're suggesting treating it similar to the new MLB system.

[HollywoodLeo]

I don't like the idea that Gehrig could receive as much comp as Chipper will next year, to be perfectly honest. And I've tried resigning Chipper after every sim. So, do I get any bonus points for making every attempt to do whatever I could to sign my guy?

Chipper would be type A if you kept him up this year. Gehrig is type B if he gets anything.

[OrioleMagic]

I just feel if this was someone else with Gehrig you really wouldn't care so I'm not a fan of you making a big deal about this.

I think Gehrig should receive some compensation but no way type A. He should get like a 4.0 cause of his age. I know his ratings are great but we have no idea if he'll just randomly die soon. I respect anything Leo decides cause I haven't had a problem with anything he has done so far.

Who on earth are you talking to in this post? Me or Leo?

[cjkalt]

That might be good in theory but I can't force a pending free agent to take a 1 year deal and I'm not going to make a habit of manually editing contracts to make that work.

And 99 times out of 100 a pending free agent is going to turn down a 1 year offer if you're suggesting treating it similar to the new MLB system.

Couldn't you just refuse to allow offers on them and then sign them in scraps?

[HollywoodLeo]

Couldn't you just refuse to allow offers on them and then sign them in scraps?

why?