While I'm not opposed to just deleting them I don't see how the rest of the league benefits from it any more than they would have had Molina done it like that from the onset.
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Contraction was brought about because the league needed a change. It was also done (I believe) to improve the overall depth of the league. How does deleting these guys help anyone?
I mean the financial model, not the contract itself.
This is right. We need to think about the best interests of the league. Sabu still gets the benefit of the MLB signings which if I could do it all over again, I would have offered 10+ million for at least one of those guys.
Another great post. Deleting the prospects should be a last option.
Porter, please don't take this personal. Sabu is a great guy. DJ was the asshole. (Bryanman was worse than an asshole. LOL) Your Plan B is clearly to stick it to Sabu at the expense of over-complicating the league.
To serve the purpose of contraction as Slyder so eloquently posted, these prospects need to be spread evenly throughout the remaining 24 teams.
Porter, please let this go and lets get onto OOTP as we know it. :)
And the contraction served its purpose, we had a round of drafting where we all got good players or used the picks as trade bait for good players. We have improved the depth of the league, and will continue to do so (if you look at the draft pools, we're all practically guaranteed a 5 star prospect that's good and somewhat developed). To me, if we decided that it's fair to Sabu that none of us get the prospects, it's not a big deal, there's still a lot of talent to be signed. I would much rather do that than whatever it is Porter's plan is trying to do, but I'm not saying it's what we NEED to do.
Sabu tried to take advantage of a loophole.
I may not fully agree with his "Everyone had the same opportunity" argument, but nevertheless everyone did.
To try and stick it too him because he took advantage of the system at the expense of the league is a bit much.
For the sake of the league we shouldn't let him get by on the loophole, but I don't think it's fair to tell him to suck it up by pulling the loophole out and sticking him with the finances.
Plan A makes the most sense. It spreads out the prospects evenly, they don't get paid like established stars, and we're not sticking Pittsburgh with a horrendously huge payroll just to be vindictive.
If Molina is willing to actually manually edit those contracts every season, sure, he might go bankrupt. But it's over complicating things, and putting more work on Molina. In addition, I stated that not everyone going into free agency was aware of the loopholes regarding prospects- well the same can be applied to Sabu. When he signed those prospects, yes he was taking advantage of the loophole, but he was not aware he'd get extreme punishment. I'm all for a re-do and try something else, but I'm not for making it highly unfair to any given party.
Or what Leo said.
Since it seems the purpose of Plan B was just to stick to Sabu, I have to go back to OM's plan as the one that would be most beneficial to the league. Perhaps do like OM suggested and do a sort of 2nd contraction draft round, then I could delete the remaining blue star players. I am all for improving the overall depth of the league.
Yea you either need to have the prospects:
A) Spread out evenly
B) Open Bidding Process
C) Deleted
I really don't care which it is but any one of the 3 is fine with me
I would just auto it, and hell you can have PIT receive the first pick so they get whoever the top guy is out there. Which I guess would not be fair to some but I don't know. There is no one definitive method that will be fair to us all, you just have to go with what works for the majority. At any rate, just put a restriction on prospects and continue on with round 2 of free agency eh? After rosters are fixed.