Re: BS Awards: AL Cy Young
Also, Felix doesn't have to pitch under the constant pressure of the NY Media, not to mention of having to carry a pitching staff battling for a division.
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No, Felix just has to pitch under the constant pressure of only allowing one run so he can get a W.
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I'd like to see CC carry that pitching staff and battle the NY Media and also have to deal with the Mariners (lack of) offense.
Of those 3, I think the latter is the most crippling.
Battling the NY Media and carrying a struggling staff just means you have to have a thick skin.
Battling a lack of offense means you practically have to throw a shut out every game if you want to get a W.
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Point goes to.. Reefer/Leo.
If Felix Hernandez had some of Sabathia's luxuries, this wouldn't be a race, he would have locked it up months ago.
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For all those saying Sabathia will win it, he blew it in his last start. 7 runs to the Rays. I think it's Price's to lose now. I feel real bad for King Felix here but I just don't think he'll get sympathy from enough people.
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Felix should have wrapped it up tonight pitching 8 innings of one run ball. Sure the Rangers sat most of their starters but he still pitched great.
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Sabathia did him one better by pitching 8 1/3 innings of one-run ball. One extra out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Felix will be shut done for the year. I still think he has it. 5-1 against the AL East I do believe and his one loss he gave up one run.
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Bill Simmons' tweet:
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Joe Morgan is anti-Felix for Cy Young: "Felix had a fabulous year but his teammates didn't support him. And it's still a team game." What???
In the words of Realmofotalk: Mother ****er, make sense.
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DirtyKash
Sabathia did him one better by pitching 8 1/3 innings of one-run ball. One extra out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
30 Quality Starts this season. The other 6 that achieved that won the Cy Young.
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Joe Morgan's an idiot.
It's still a team game but this is not a team award.
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Originally Posted by Jayson Stark on Felix Hernandez's Case
In 1987, a living legend named Nolan Ryan led his league in ERA and strikeouts (how 'bout 270 whiffs in 211 2/3 innings?) -- and got rewarded for it by receiving precisely zero first-place Cy Young votes. Why was that? Because he went 8-16 pitching for a team (the Astros) that never scored for him. And why else was that? Because it was 1987, and nobody knew any better. Well, we don't live in 1987 anymore. We live in an age where we have more information to evaluate just about everything than we've ever had in the history of mankind. So I'd like to think the Cy Young voters of 2010 are going to use that information, do the right thing and hand Hernandez the Cy Young Award he deserves. I wouldn't bet the beach house on it (possibly because I don't have a beach house). But I'd still like to think it. If a 15-game winner (Tim Lincecum) could win this thing last year, why can't a 13-game winner win it this year? Hernandez (13-12, 2.27) leads the AL in ERA, strikeouts and innings -- and every pitcher who has done that in the Cy Young era has won the award. He also leads the league in every big sabermetric stat that Abner Doubleday never heard of -- Wins Above Replacement, Win Probability Added, Adjusted ERA-Plus and VORP -- which definitively tells us he has outpitched everybody else in this field. True, King Felix doesn't pitch in the AL East. But he has a 0.54 ERA against the Yankees and Red Sox. Granted, he doesn't pitch for a playoff team. But he has a 2.47 ERA in 14 starts against teams that are either in the playoffs or still breathing. Yeah, he has eight fewer wins than CC Sabathia. But Felix's ERA in the 21 starts he hasn't won (3.31) is almost as low as CC's overall ERA (3.18). So what more was this man supposed to do? Hernandez pitches for the Worst AL Offense of Modern Times. Have I mentioned that in the last four paragraphs? So he has left seven of his last 14 starts in the seventh inning or later with zero runs on his side of the board. And his run support (3.06 per game) isn't merely the worst in baseball this year. It's the worst in this millennium. And according to Elias, it's the second-worst support in the entire DH era for an AL pitcher with an ERA under 2.50. And the only guy who got crummier support (Jon Matlack) was doing his thing way back in 1978. So if Felix hasn't won 20, that's not his fault. But if those of us who vote don't give him this Cy Young Award, that will be our fault.
Honoring 2010's most valuable and least valuable players, Cy Youngs and Yuks, rookies and managers - ESPN
Is that a good enough case for you DK.
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Originally Posted by
Kingdom_of_Zito
Bill Simmons' tweet:
In the words of Realmofotalk: Mother ****er, make sense.
God help me if I have to hear another idiot during the postseason reiterate that Pat Burrell's hitting suffered because he didn't know how to be a designated hitter.
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Porter99
30 Quality Starts this season. The other 6 that achieved that won the Cy Young.
Canadians aren't good at math. Or any other useful skill, except pinch hit homeruns.
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Porter99
There's a distinct lack of WIN METHOD analysis in there.