The Other Awards

[McKain]

What about manager of the year awards? Who's keeping track on the number of "good" strategic decisions by all 30 managers?

They're all in a tie for dead last because they all suck.

MVPs: A-Rod & David Wright
CYs: Jake Peavy & Dan Haren
ROYs: Ryan Braun & Hideki Okajima
MoTY: Manny Acta & Manny Acta

Why does it make a difference?

Does C.C.'s team make C.C. a better pitcher than Bedard?

The only award where the team's overall performance should be considered is M.V.P., and that's only because you're trying to determine (by definition of the award) who was most valuable to his team's season.

Kinda hard to be "valuable" to a losing team.

It makes a huge difference for voters, sadly. It's why Dan Haren has no shot, even though he's been the best pitcher, because Oakland sucks at hitting.

[HollywoodLeo]

It makes a huge difference for voters, sadly. It's why Dan Haren has no shot, even though he's been the best pitcher, because Oakland sucks at hitting.

Yeah, I know

I just figured we were going about this as to who should win these awards, not who will win them.

[Dry1313]

Oh, I thought it was will.

I'd change Prince over to Chase Utley, and CC/Bedard is clearly in Bedard's favor, strictly based on mastery.

[777rak]

NL CY: Jake Peavy

NL MVP: Price

NL ROY: Braun

[HollywoodLeo]

Oh, I thought it was will.

I'd change Prince over to Chase Utley, and CC/Bedard is clearly in Bedard's favor, strictly based on mastery.

eh, it wasn't specified by the thread starter.

Just how I generally go about it in these threads and, because of that, reacted as such when someone mentioned the caliber of the teams two pitchers played for.

He was probably posting who he thinks will win it.

[realmofotalk]

MVPs: A-Rod & Prince Fielder
CYs: Brandon Webb & Dan Haren
ROYs: Ryan Braun & Brian Bannister

[Witlon]

Going with the MLB voters 3 vote format...

AL MVP
1st Place: Alex Rodriguez(3B-NYA)
2nd Place: Vlad Guerrero(OF-LAA)
3rd Place: Magglio Ordonez(OF-DET)

AL Cy Young
1st Place: Dan Haren(SP-OAK)
2nd Place: Eric Bedard(SP-BAL)
3rd Place: C.C. Sabathia(SP-CLE)

AL Rookie of the Year
1st Place: Brian Bannister(SP-KC)
2nd Place: Daisuke Matsuzaka(SP-BOS)
3rd Place: Jeremy Guthrie(SP-BAL)

AL Manager of the Year
1st Place: Eric Wedge(MGR-CLE)
2nd Place: Joe Torre(MGR-NYA)
3rd Place: Mike Scoscia(MGR-LAA)

NL MVP
1st Place: Prince Fielder(1B-MIL)
2nd Place: Eric Byrnes(OF-ARI)
3rd Place: Aramis Ramirez(3B-CHC)

NL Cy Young
1st Place: Jake Peavy(SP-SD)
2nd Place: Brandon Webb(SP-ARI)
3rd Place: Chris Young(SP-SD)

NL Rookie of the Year
1st Place: Ryan Braun(3B-MIL)
2nd Place: Hunter Pence(OF-HOU)
3rd Place: Chris B. Young(OF-ARI)

NL Manager of the Year
1st Place: Bob Melvin(MGR-ARI)
2nd Place: Lou Pinella(MGR-CHC)
3rd Place: Ned Yost(MGR-MIL)

[Dry1313]

Magglio's a clear 2nd MVP, I don't see how anyone can argue that.

[brewersfan19]

People when the voters vote, they go with the familiar names and how their team fairs in the regular season. We all know that. Rarely, does an award go to a player(s) on teams that are not at least contending, unless their season is out of the ordinary. And in this day and age, it is going to happen even less because of the playoff system (3 division winners and a wild-card), and too much parity and better than average pitching.

[HollywoodLeo]

People when the voters vote, they go with the familiar names and how their team fairs in the regular season. We all know that. Rarely, does an award go to a player(s) on teams that are not at least contending, unless their season is out of the ordinary. And in this day and age, it is going to happen even less because of the playoff system (3 division winners and a wild-card), and too much parity and better than average pitching.

I'm fully aware of this concept.

I simply point out who I think should get the award, regardless of whether or not I think they will get the award.

Sometimes I type before thinking when I see someone going about it the other way, which is what happened in here.

[DirtyKash]

I'm pretty sure Guthrie is a rookie, I could be wrong based on service time, but he is under the IP threshhold

You might be right. Although he did pitch in April, May, June and August last year. I thought there was a 45-day limit for being on major league rosters? Who knows.

[brewersfan19]

That is why I like ya Hollywood. I do the same thing many times myself. Everything is cool. Keep the opinions coming, I love it!!!

[Kingdom]

Joe Girardi for manager of the year.

[brewersfan19]

I wish he was going to be the next Brewers manager.

[love_that_reefer]

NL MVP- Eric Byrnes

AL MVP- Arod/Magglio- could go either way and I wouldn't be mad.

NL Cy Young- Jake Peavy

AL Cy Young- C.C. Sabathia

NL ROY- Ryan Braun

AL ROY- Dustin Pedroia

NL Comeback Player of the Year- Ryan Franklin

AL Comeback Player of the Year- Carlos Pena

NL Manager of the Year- Tony LaRussa

AL Manager of the Year- Eric Wedge