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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    Being the most referred to stat is part of what makes it so overrated.

    How else do we place value on them? I don't know, perhaps by looking at stats they have more direct control over instead of the overall team outcome?

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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    without wins or losses who will know who wins or losses. hahha but seriously how can you say wins losses are overated... sorry didnt read the entire forum.

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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    I didnt say wins and losses are overrated i said the statistic for pitchers is overrated

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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    Wins are overrated and so are touchdowns.

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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    Two point conversions on the other hand....

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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    Allow me to beat my dead horse on the subject of "wins" as a primary stat for judging pitchers. Matt Harvey had perhaps the most dominant outing of the season (in the majors, not just for the Mets) Tuesday night when he went nine shutout innings. The only baserunner he allowed was courtesy of an infield hit. He struck out 12. The Mets won. Only the Mets won in the 10th inning, so the winning pitcher was Bobby Parnell. Meanwhile, Dillon Gee got the win last Wednesday after allowing nine hits and four earned runs in five innings. So, the "how many wins does he have" crowd thinks Gee threw better than Harvey, right?
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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    I wish the Cubs would just pay the man, damn.
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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    Jacob deGrom: 4 starts, 1.82 ERA, 0-2 record.

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    7 IP, 4 H, 2 BB, 6 K, 1 ER in a 1-0 loss (credited with loss)
    6 IP, 4 H, 3 BB, 4 K, 3 ER in a 4-3 loss (credited with loss)
    6.2 IP, 5 H, 5 BB, 4 K, 0 ER in a 5-3 loss
    6.1 IP, 3 H, 2 BB, 11 K, 3 ER in a 5-4, 14-inning win.
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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    Joaquin Benoit gives up a game-tying HR and gets a W for his efforts.
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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    Fernando Rodney blows a non-save situation by giving up 4 runs to tie the game. His team scores the next inning and he gets the win despite not pitching in said inning. 1 inning, 4 hits, 2 walks, 4 runs...1 win lol.

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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    Lol @ that. But I'll take a win
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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    and the S3F award for thread I never thought I'd see again is...


    But yea wins/loss and how its determined is beyond dumb.
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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    I've bumped this thread routinely every year since 2006 and you never thought you'd see this thread again?
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    Re: wins/losses (for pitchers)= most overated stat in sports

    Especially with Mofo's Awesome Necro Thread Bumping you think anything is left safe?


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