Random Fantasy Football 2014 Rumblings

[Witlon]

A little snapshot of Witlon's drafts thus far. (To give me something to do until I resume drafting on Sunday.)

Through 8 Drafts
ESPN Standard, 12 Team(192 picks), 1 starting QB, undrafted players divided at 200
1. Peyton Manning, DEN: 6 (High: 3, Low: 9)
2. Aaron Rodgers, GB: 13.25 (High: 9, Low: 21)
3. Drew Brees, NO: 14.875 (High: 10, Low: 23)
4. Matthew Stafford, DET: 47.875 (High: 41, Low: 56)
5. Andrew Luck, IND: 49.625 (High: 41, Low: 57)
6. Cam Newton, CAR: 52.5 (High: 27, Low: 59)
7. Tom Brady, NE: 63.25 (Heavily influenced by going #1 and #19 overall in two leagues. Without those leagues, his ADP is 81.) (High: 1, Low:91)
8. Robert Grffin III, WAS: 67.25 (High: 52, Low: 84)
9. Nick Foles, PHI: 76.75 (High: 62, Low: 86)
10. Colin Kaepernick, SF: 76.875 (High: 49, Low: 96)
11. Matt Ryan, ATL: 86.75 (High: 74, Low: 95)
12. Russell Wilson, SEA: 87 (High: 54, Low: 110)
13. Tony Romo, DAL: 102.5 (High: 87, Low: 113)
14. Philip Rivers, SD: 109.375 (High: 95, Low: 121)
15. Jay Cutler, CHI: 113.375 (High: 96, Low: 149)
16. Ben Roethlisberger, PIT: 135.5 (High: 118, Low: 152)
17. Andy Dalton, CIN: 136.875 (High: 117, Low: 152)
18. Eli Manning, NYG: 143.125 (High: 91, Low: 176)
19. Carson Palmer, ARI: 157.5 (High: 139, Low: 183)
20. Johnny Manziel, CLE: 169 (Undrafted in 2 leagues) (High: 127)
21. Joe Flacco, BAL: 180.75 (Undrafted in 3 leagues)(High: 118)
22. Ryan Tannehill, MIA: 186.126 (Undrafted in 5 leagues.) (High: 144)
23. Michael Vick, NYJ: 189.25 (Undrafted in 6 leagues.) (High: 142)
24. Josh McCown, TB: 191.75 (Undrafted in 3 leagues) (High: 180)
25. Sam Bradford, STL: 192.125 (Undrafted in 7 leagues) (High: 137)
26. EJ Manuel, BUF: 194.625 (Undrafted in 7 leagues) (High: 157)
27. Alex Smith, KC: 195.5 (Undrafted in 7 leagues) (High: 164)

Thoughts? Complaints? TL, DR?

[Witlon]

Tight Ends by ADP
1. Jimmy Graham, NO: 12.375 (High: 8, Low: 19)
2. Julius Thomas, DEN: 28.875 (High: 22, Low: 32)
3. Rob Gronkowski, NE: 31.5 (High: 24, Low: 42)
4. Vernon Davis, SF: 44.125 (High: 36, Low: 56)
5. Jason Witten, DAL: 66.625 (High: 42, Low: 81)
6. Jordan Cameron, CLE: 72.625 (High: 47, Low: 92)
7. Dennis Pitta, BAL: 93 (High: 63, Low: 109)
8. Greg Olsen, CAR: 98 (High: 90, Low: 110)
9. Kyle Rudolph, MIN: 106 (High: 46, Low: 144)
10. Jordan Reed, WAS: 110.125 (High: 73, Low: 153)
11. Martellus Bennett, CHI: 139.75 (High: 115, Low: 164)
12. Charles Clay, MIA: 145 (Undrafted in 1 league)(High: 69, Low: UD)
13. Zach Ertz, PHI: 145.375 (High: 112, Low: 172)
14. Antonio Gates, SD: 162 (High: 109, Low: 185)
15. Delanie Walker, TEN: 181.25 (Undrafted in 1 league) (High: 168, LOw: UD)
16. Ladarius Green, SD: 181.5 (Undrafted in 3 leagues) (High: 140, Low: UD)
17. Jermaine Gresham, CIN: 184.25 (Undrafted in 6 leagues) (High: 87)
18. Eric Ebron, DET: 189 (Undrafted in 4 leagues) (High: 165)
19. Heath Miller, PIT: 191.75 (Undrafted in 5 leagues) (High: 171)
20. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TB: 192.375 (Undrafted in 6 leagues) (High: 169)
21. Coby Fleener, IND: 192.625 (Undrafted in 5 leagues) (High: 161)
22. Jared Cook, STL: 196.625 (Undrafted in 7 leagues) (High: 173)
23. Levine Toilolo, ATL: 197.625 (Undrafted in 7 leagues) (High: 181)
24. Andrew Quarless, GB: 198.75 (Undrafted in 7 leagues) (High: 190)

More food for thought. I tend to go 1 TE in drafts, or some other guys like Dwayne Allen, Brandon Bostick/Richard Rodgers and Tyler Eifert would've gotten a courtesy draft, but obviously I like them more than the average ESPN player.

[ucfinfan86]

I can't really disagree much with the TE order. If I don't get Graham/Gronk I find myself not drafting a TE until late and grabbing a Clay/Ertz/Rudolph/Olsen.

[ucfinfan86]

A little snapshot of Witlon's drafts thus far. (To give me something to do until I resume drafting on Sunday.)

Through 8 Drafts
ESPN Standard, 12 Team(192 picks), 1 starting QB, undrafted players divided at 200
1. Peyton Manning, DEN: 6 (High: 3, Low: 9)
2. Aaron Rodgers, GB: 13.25 (High: 9, Low: 21)
3. Drew Brees, NO: 14.875 (High: 10, Low: 23)
4. Matthew Stafford, DET: 47.875 (High: 41, Low: 56)
5. Andrew Luck, IND: 49.625 (High: 41, Low: 57)
6. Cam Newton, CAR: 52.5 (High: 27, Low: 59)
7. Tom Brady, NE: 63.25 (Heavily influenced by going #1 and #19 overall in two leagues. Without those leagues, his ADP is 81.) (High: 1, Low:91)
8. Robert Grffin III, WAS: 67.25 (High: 52, Low: 84)
9. Nick Foles, PHI: 76.75 (High: 62, Low: 86)
10. Colin Kaepernick, SF: 76.875 (High: 49, Low: 96)
11. Matt Ryan, ATL: 86.75 (High: 74, Low: 95)
12. Russell Wilson, SEA: 87 (High: 54, Low: 110)
13. Tony Romo, DAL: 102.5 (High: 87, Low: 113)
14. Philip Rivers, SD: 109.375 (High: 95, Low: 121)
15. Jay Cutler, CHI: 113.375 (High: 96, Low: 149)
16. Ben Roethlisberger, PIT: 135.5 (High: 118, Low: 152)
17. Andy Dalton, CIN: 136.875 (High: 117, Low: 152)
18. Eli Manning, NYG: 143.125 (High: 91, Low: 176)
19. Carson Palmer, ARI: 157.5 (High: 139, Low: 183)
20. Johnny Manziel, CLE: 169 (Undrafted in 2 leagues) (High: 127)
21. Joe Flacco, BAL: 180.75 (Undrafted in 3 leagues)(High: 118)
22. Ryan Tannehill, MIA: 186.126 (Undrafted in 5 leagues.) (High: 144)
23. Michael Vick, NYJ: 189.25 (Undrafted in 6 leagues.) (High: 142)
24. Josh McCown, TB: 191.75 (Undrafted in 3 leagues) (High: 180)
25. Sam Bradford, STL: 192.125 (Undrafted in 7 leagues) (High: 137)
26. EJ Manuel, BUF: 194.625 (Undrafted in 7 leagues) (High: 157)
27. Alex Smith, KC: 195.5 (Undrafted in 7 leagues) (High: 164)

Thoughts? Complaints? TL, DR?

At those spots i'd prefer to take a chance on Rivers/Cutler/Romo at the end of the draft instead of Kaep/Ryan/Wilson 2-3 rounds earlier. They all have the same probability of ending up in the final top 10 rankings.

[Witlon]

At those spots i'd prefer to take a chance on Rivers/Cutler/Romo at the end of the draft instead of Kaep/Ryan/Wilson 2-3 rounds earlier. They all have the same probability of ending up in the final top 10 rankings.

I agree completely. I don't see much of a difference between my #5 QB(Ryan) and my #14 QB(Cutler). The only thing is, I've been stuck at the turn in almost all of my drafts, so when it's 7th or 8th round, I have to jump on the QB I like best, or risk getting stuck with the Dalton/Roethlisberger/Eli crew.

[ucfinfan86]

That's why auction drafts are the way to go

[Witlon]

The only problem with auctions(especially the free ones) are the length. I've had them last upwards of 3 hours on the baseball side, that's just too long. (I can get two snake drafts done in that time, and still be able to go out at night.

[Witlon]

Early drop of the season: Cordarrelle Patterson was cut by the guy that took Tom Brady #1 to sign Tony Gonzalez in a league.

I graciously dropped my kicker to pick him up.

[Witlon]

Running Backs
1. Adrian Peterson, MIN 2 (High: 1, Low: 3)
2. LeSean McCoy, PHI 2.125 (High: 1, Low: 4)
3. Jamaal Charles, KC 2.875 (High: 2, Low: 4)
4. Matt Forte, CHI 5.125 (High: 4, Low: 7)
5. Eddie Lacy, GB 6.5 (High: 4, Low: 8)
6. Marshawn Lynch, SEA 6.625 (High: 3, Low: 11)
7. Arian Foster, HOU 11 (High: 9, Low: 14)
8. DeMarco Murray, DAL 13.125 (High: 9, Low: 18)
9. Doug Martin, TB 15.875 (High: 8, Low: 21)
T-10. Zac Stacy, STL 19.375 (High: 15, Low: 30)
T-10. Le'Veon Bell, PIT 19.375 (High: 15, Low: 23)
12. Montee Ball, DEN 21.175 (High: 10, Low: 29)
13. Alfred Morris, WAS 21.5 (High: 16, Low: 26)
14. Reggie Bush, DET 27.125 (High: 19, Low: 33)
15. Giovani Bernard, CIN 29.25 (High: 24, Low: 32)
16. Frank Gore, SF 32 (High: 6, Low: 41)
17. Ben Tate, CLE 38.125 (High: 34, Low: 48)
18. Ryan Mathews, SD 38.375 (High: 32, Low: 48)
19. Andre Ellington, ARI 38.875 (High: 33, Low: 47)
20. CJ Spiller, BUF 39 (High: 27, Low: 48)
21. Toby Gerhart, JAC 45.375 (High: 36, Low: 54)
22. Ray Rice, BAL 45.5 (High: 27, Low: 60)
23. Rashad Jennings, NYG 51 (High: 44, Low: 59)
24. Trent Richardson, IND 51.25 (High: 39, Low: 59)
25. Chris Johnson, NYJ 51.375 (High: 45, Low: 63)
26. Steven Jackson, ATL 61.625 (High: 44, Low: 76)
27. Shane Vereen, NE 64 (High: 54, Low: 73)
28. Bishop Sankey, TEN 64.25 (High: 60, Low: 71)
29. Joique Bell, DET 67.5 (High: 60, Low: 75)
30. Stevan Ridley, NE 68.75 (High: 53, Low: 83)
31. Maurice Jones-Drew, OAK 76.625 (High: 58, Low: 86)
32. Lamar Miller, MIA 77.75 (High: 60, Low: 98)
33. Pierre Thomas, NO 85.125 (High: 71, Low: 105)
34. Fred Jackson, BUF 98 (High: 78, Low: 111)
35. Christopher Ivory, NYJ 98.375 (High: 92, Low: 113)
T-36. Bernard Pierce, BAL 98.625 (High: 78, Low: 106)
T-36. Darren Sproles, PHI 98.625 (High: 78, Low: 117)
38. DeAngelo Williams, CAR 99.75 (High: 84, Low: 112)
39. Danny Woodhead, SD 102.25 (High: 88, Low: 108)
40. Knowshon Moreno, MIA 105.5 (High: 94, Low: 126)
41. Khiry Robinson, NO 108.25 (High: 97, Low: 128)
42. Terrance West, CLE 115.125 (High: 92, Low: 133)
43. Darren McFadden, OAK 115.875 (High: 100, Low: 122)
44. Tre Mason, STL 117.375 (High: 100, Low: 136)
45. Mark Ingram, NO 117.625 (High: 99, Low: 128)
46. Jeremy Hill, CIN 119.25 (High: 108, Low: 136)
47. Shonn Greene, TEN 122.25 (High: 122.5, Low: 131)
48. Christine Michael, SEA 128.75 (High: 117, Low: 143)
49. Donald Brown, SD 132.25 (High: 120, Low: 152)
50. James Starks, GB 133.125 (High: 78, Low: 148)
51. LeGarrette Blount, PIT 134.125 (High: 121, Low: 153)
52. Carlos Hyde, SF 138 (High: 108, Low: 181)
53. CJ Anderson, DEN 147.375 (High: 125, Low: 165)
54. Knile Davis, KC 148.125 (High: 130, Low: 159)
55. Andre Brown, FA 148.5 (High: 127, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 1 league. Released by HOU on Sunday.)
56. Andre Williams, NYG 149.875 (High: 108, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 1 league, pre-David Wilson injury.)
57. Latavius Murray, OAK 152.625 (High: 147, Low: 158)
58. Roy Helu, WAS 153.625 (High: 134, Low: 168)
59. Jordan Todman, JAC 162.5 (High: 175, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 2 leagues.)
60. Jonathan Stewart, CAR 163.375 (High: 151, Low: 182)
61. Davonte Freeman, ATL 171 (High: 142, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 1 league.)
62. David Wilson, NYG 176.125 (High: 99, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 6 leagues, both drafting in was pre-injury.)
63. Jonathan Dwyer, ARI 181.5 (High: 159, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 1 league.)
64. BenJarvus Green-Ellis, CIN 188.15 (High: 167, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 3 leagues.)
65. Ka'Deem Carey, CHI 189.625 (High: 149, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 5 leagues.)
66. Mike Tolbert, CAR 191.75 (High: 149, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 6 leagues.)
67. Bryce Brown, BUF 192.25 (High: 192.25, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 6 leagues.)
68. Ahmad Bradshaw, IND 193.75 (High: 150, Low: UD) (Undrafted 7 leagues.)
69. Mike James, TB 194.875 (High: 169, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 6 leagues.)
70. Lorenzo Taliaferro, BAL 195.75 (High: 166) (Undrafted in 7 leagues.)
71. Joseph Randle, DAL 196.375 (High: 171) (Undrafted in 7 leagues.)
72. Robert Turbin, SEA 198.5 (High: 188) (Undrafted in 7 leagues)

[Witlon]

Wide Receivers
1. Calvin Johnson, DET 6.625 (High: 1, Low: 9)
2. Demariyus Thomas, DEN 13.25 (High: 11, Low: 15)
3. A.J. Green, CIN 14.75 (High: 12, Low: 20)
4. Dez Bryant, DAL 16 (High: 13, Low: 19)
5. Brandon Marshall, CHI 19.875 (High: 15, Low: 24)
6. Julio Jones, ATL 22.375 (High: 20, Low: 25)
7. Alshon Jeffery, CHI 25.125 (High: 23, Low: 26)
8. Jordy Nelson, GB 25.875 (High: 23, Low: 31)
9. Antonio Brown, PIT 29.125 (High: 26, Low: 33)
10. Randall Cobb, GB 32.25 (High: 25, Low: 33)
11. Andre Johnson, HOU 35.125 (High: 30, Low: 40)
12. Larry Fitzgerald, ARI 35.5 (High: 24, Low: 43)
13. Vincent Jackson, TB 36.625 (High: 31, Low: 43)
14. Victor Cruz, NYG 45.375 (High: 34, Low: 53)
T-15. DeSean Jackson, WAS 47 (High: 35, Low: 59)
T-15. Keenan Allen, SD 47 (High: 43, Low: 52)
T-15. Wes Welker, DEN 47 (High: 30, Low: 58)
18. Pierre Garcon, WAS 48.75 (High: 42, Low: 57)
19. Roddy WHite, ATL 50.75 (High: 46, Low: 56)
20. Percy Harvin, SEA 53.625 (High: 39, Low: 72)
21. Michael Crabtree, SF 54.125 (High: 43, Low: 68)
22. Torrey Smith, BAL 59.875 (High: 51, Low: 65)
23. T.Y. Hilton, IND 62.625 (High: 50, Low: 76)
24. Michael Floyd, ARI 66.375 (High: 58, Low: 74)
25. Julian Edelman, NE 66.5 (High: 58, Low: 83)
26. Cordarrelle Patterson, MIN 67.875 (High: 52, Low: 91)
27. Reggie Wayne, IND 70.75 (High: 38, Low: 87)
28. Jeremy Maclin, PHI 73.5 (High: 67, Low: 84)
29. Golden Tate, DET 75.5 (High: 62, Low: 90)
30. Sammy Watkins, BUF 77.875 (High: 58, Low: 100)
31. Marques Colston, NO 80.125 (High: 70, Low: 85)
32. Mike Wallace, MIA 80.875 (High: 70, Low: 105)
33. Emmanuel Sanders, DEN 81.5 (High: 69, Low: 105)
34. Eric Decker, NYJ 83 (High: 63, Low: 103)
35. Kendall Wright, TEN 87.375 (High: 79, Low: 94)
36. Terrance Williams, DAL 87.75 (High: 68, Low: 104)
37. Anquan Boldin, SF 95 (High: 84, Low: 107)
38. Cecil Shorts, JAC 99.25 (High: 90, Low: 112)
39. Hakeem Nicks, IND 104.5 (High: 67, Low: 125)
40. DeAndre Hopkins, HOU 105.75 (High: 94, Low: 114)
41. Dwayne Bowe, KC 106.375 (High: 94, Low: 118)
42. Riley Cooper, PHI 107 (High: 93, Low: 121)
43. Danny Amendola, NE 113.375 (High: 106, Low: 121)
T-44. Greg Jennings, MIN 123.75 (High: 112, Low: 131)
T-44. Brandin Cooks, NO 123.75 (High: 93, Low: 139)
46. Steve Smith, BAL 129 (High: 123, Low: 145)
47. Justin Hunter, TEN 130.75 (High: 112, Low: 146)
48. Tavon Austin, STL 131.25 (High: 101, Low: 150)
49. Mike Evans, TB 134.25 (High: 121, Low: 152)
50. James Jones, OAK 136.5 (High: 130, Low: 149)
51. Rueben Randle, NYG 140.5 (High: 121, Low: 157)
52. Jarrett Boykin, GB 149.625 (High: 132, Low: 163)
53. Steve Johnson, SF 151.625 (High: 132, Low: 162)
54. Kelvin Benjamin, CAR 156.125 (High: 144, Low: 167)
55. Kenny Stills, NO 168.5 (High: 126, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 2 leagues)
56. Marvin Jones, CIN 169.875 (High: 143, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 2 leagues, both BEFORE his injury...?)
57. Josh Gordon, CLE 173.5 (High: 124, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 4 leagues)
58. Markus Whaton, PIT 173.75 (High: 156, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 2 leagues)
59. Brandon LaFell, NE 176.625 (High: 155, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 1 league)
60. Andrew Hawkins, CLE 182 (High: 176, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 1 league)
61. Doug Baldwin, SEA 184.125 (High: 146, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 3 leagues)
62. Aaron Dobson, NE 189.125 (High: 146, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 5 leagues)
63. Brian Hartline, MIA 191.375 (High: 146, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 6 leagues)
64. Kenny Britt, STL 192 (High: 145, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 6 leagues)
65. Marquise Lee, JAC 193.5 (High: 171, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 6 leagues)
66. Odell Beckham, NYG 194.25 (High: 166, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 6 leagues)
67. Mike Williams, BUF 194.625 (High: 157, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 7 leagues)
68. Denarius Moore, OAK 194.75 (High: 158, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 7 leagues)
69. Jordan Matthews, PHI 197 (High: 176, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 7 leagues)
70. Jerrel Jernigan, NYG 197.5 (High: 180, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 7 leagues)
71. Rod Streater, OAK 197.625 (High: 181, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 7 leagues)
72. Jerricho Cotchery, CAR 185 (High: 185, Low: UD) (Undrafted in 7 leagues)

[Kingdom]

Levine Toilolo, ATL

What's he like? I feel like Ryan isn't shy about hooking up with a tight end so is he a receiving type TE or a throw back blocker type that'll only get a catch here and there

[Mach]

the latter.

[Mach]

and we call him Trolololololol

[Mach]

what could save him is he's a freaking giant so he could be a 2/14/1 type guy per week.

[Witlon]

Levine Toilolo, ATL

What's he like? I feel like Ryan isn't shy about hooking up with a tight end so is he a receiving type TE or a throw back blocker type that'll only get a catch here and there

He's 6'8'', though, so maybe he's good for 5-6 TDs. I'm guessing that's what you'd be buying on the notion of.