Witlon give me your NFL Franchise All Time Rankings

[schisno]

Measure them, quantify them however you want. From #32 to #1 how do you rank the NFL franchises.

You can include, # of HOFers, Longevity, Impact, Superbowl/Division/Conference/League Championships ect.

Schisno's #32 - Detroit Lions

[Witlon]

Shit, I'll make a list at work tonight if I remember. The Lions are almost certainly #32, though, 8 division championships in 85 years is crazy.

[schisno]

I'd say so, no Superbowl appearances and just how bad they have been for periods of time. Though they've had some great players like Barry Sanders and now Calvin Johnson.

#31 could be Browns or Texans.

[Witlon]

Browns have the 8 pre-Superbowl era championships, I think they're higher. I'd be fine with the Texans there, though.

I'm thinking the Falcons though, almost 50 years, 0 championships, and what, 2 hall of famers?

[schisno]

They did make a Superbowl, and they've had spurts of competitiveness. I could see them at 30, the Texans because they haven't been around long enough and just starting to have a swing of competitiveness.

[Witlon]

They didn't make a Super Bowl. The 1998 playoffs have been removed from history.

[schisno]

Vikings and Bills are tired for #29 losing a 4 SBs each.

[Mach]

They didn't make a Super Bowl. The 1998 playoffs have been removed from history.

Not Gary Anderson's

[schisno]

Not Gary Anderson's

You'll be lucky I give the Raiders #9

[Mach]

9?

[schisno]

If you take away the past 13 years, they were one of the more steady franchises, with numerous HOFers and Superbowl championships and the impact on the game itself.

Of course the losing touch with the game itself and its evolution over the past 13 years can drop a team outside the top ten?

[Prynce]

1. Pittsburgh Steelers
2. San Francisco 49ers
3. Dallas Cowboys
4. Green Bay Packers
5. New England Patriots
6. New York Giants
7. Oakland Raiders
8. Washington Redskins
9. Miami Dolphins
10. Baltimore Ravens
11. Indianapolis Colts
12. Denver Broncos
13. Chicago Bears
14. St. Louis Rams
15. Seattle Seahawks
16. Kansas City Chiefs
17. New York Jets
18. New Orleans Saints
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
20. Buffalo Bills
21. Minnesota Vikings
22. Philadelphia Eagles
23. Cincinnati Bengals
24. San Diego Chargers
25. Tennessee Titans
26. Carolina Panthers
27. Atlanta Falcons
28. Arizona Cardinals
29. Cleveland Browns
30. Jacksonville Jaguars
31. Houston Texans
32. Detroit Lions

Lions get last for 0 superbowl appearances. Few postseasons and 0-16.

[NFLRA]

I think mine would be pretty close to what prince has, although I'd rank Arizona higher. They had some success while they were in Chi-Town back in the day.

[schisno]

Saints are a bit high if you consider how long it took them to get good under Payton. You can't forget the 'Aints and selling the farm for Ricky Williams. Ravens, depends on if you count them as a separate entity from the original Browns, especially if you're going to count the Cardinals' Chicago days.

[prettyflacco]

This Prynce list is very good. I'm sure I'd have quibbles if I looked closer but a great baseline