Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

  1. #1
    De Facto Baseball God
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    22,208
    MLB ERA
    5.77

    Reds Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    Ok so maybe not all of them but it sure seemed like it when I read this:

    The Reds are showing interest in Willy Taveras, Yorvit Torrealba and Garrett Atkins from the Rockies, according to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal.
    Atkins is a long shot for them, but Rosenthal thinks they could acquire Taveras and Torrealba in the same deal. The Rockies wouldn't ask for much in return for either player. On the off chance that the Reds acquired Atkins, it would likely be with the idea of moving Edwin Encarnacion to left field.
    I like these moves for the Reds and think they would help a lot. Taveras would make Reds fans forget all about Corey Patterson. Taveras has great range in CF and is a real stolen base threat. Torreabla is a better hitter than anyone the Reds put out there last year. Two upgrades would do the Reds a lot of good. Maybe the Reds could dump Arroyo on the Rockies in one of these deals.

  2. #2
    Hall of Famer Slyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Belle, WV
    Posts
    12,929
    MLB ERA
    9.67

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    Tavares is Patterson with better contact. His OBP is very much hit based. Doesnt draw a whole lot of walks. Better bat than Patterson, noodle for an arm. Whats wrong with giving Dickerson a chance?

    Edwin vs Atkins bleh pretty much a draw to me. Both are awful in the field, Atkins is older. Now if you think Edwin could move to LF and be average...

    Yorvit is nothing with the bat, cant judge the handling of the pitching staff. Why not just sign someone cheap like a Kendall to be a vet with Hannigan and roll the dice? 2009 is expected to be another rebuilding year.

    Of the bunch Taveras is the only one Id honestly be after right now and thats if Stubbs/Dickerson is seen as trade bait or not going to be here opening day.
    HollywoodLeo: You and Kingdom always annoy me
    "Oh, don't mind me, I'm rebuilding now" then you win at least 80 games

    RIP S3SL Minnesota Twins.

    RIP HSL Anaheim Angels

    Rebuilding the Dodger Blues
    Renewed Start back in the land of 10,000 lakes

  3. #3
    De Facto Baseball God
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    22,208
    MLB ERA
    5.77

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    Taveras is Patterson with 50 more steals and about .100 more in OBP than Patterson last year To say he is Patterson with better contact is an insult to Taveras.

  4. #4
    Hall of Famer Slyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Belle, WV
    Posts
    12,929
    MLB ERA
    9.67

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Taveras is Patterson with 50 more steals and about .100 more in OBP than Patterson last year To say he is Patterson with better contact is an insult to Taveras.
    Both are very hit reliant OBP, I'd like SOMEONE (ANYONE) on this team at the top of the order that can TAKE A FREAKING WALK at the top. The Reds were near the bottom in Obp. Why trade actual talent that could be used elsewhere to Colorado for Tavares when you have Dickerson or Stubbs possibly for CF for the minimum? 2009 is expected to be a rebuilding year. His career OBP is .331, .050 difference in OBP and BA. Patterson is .040 difference.

    Both dont draw a lot of walks, big difference is hitting it where they arent. I honestly don't want either regardless of Stolen Bases because they would be used identically by Duhhsty and thats why I compared the two.
    HollywoodLeo: You and Kingdom always annoy me
    "Oh, don't mind me, I'm rebuilding now" then you win at least 80 games

    RIP S3SL Minnesota Twins.

    RIP HSL Anaheim Angels

    Rebuilding the Dodger Blues
    Renewed Start back in the land of 10,000 lakes

  5. #5
    De Facto Baseball God
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    22,208
    MLB ERA
    5.77

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    I don't see Dusty holding a guy back who just stole 60+ bases. Plus Taveras is a better OFer than Dickerson. Stubbs needs more seasoning. Just saying Torrealba and Taveras are definite upgrades from this past season. You are unfair to Torrealba who handled a young pitching staff just fine when the Rockies made their amazing run in '07.

  6. #6
    14,558 Unread Posts browntown653's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    11,666
    MLB ERA
    2.44

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    3 players is worth saying an entire roster?
    I did a lot of good things as a sim league GM.

    Ah, give me something clever to say here.

  7. #7
    De Facto Baseball God
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    22,208
    MLB ERA
    5.77

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    Yes.

  8. #8
    Hero ball. Kingdom's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    My office.
    Posts
    56,041
    MLB ERA
    6.85
    Blog Entries
    61

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    Yorvit Torrealba is worth at least 16 roster spots, Browntown
    Marshall: MILSWANCAs?
    Ted
    : Wait, I can get this. Mothers I'd like to sleep with and never call again.
    Barney: Circle gets the square!

    The 2074 MSL NL Gold Glove Recipient at Third Base.

  9. #9
    Hall of Famer Slyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Belle, WV
    Posts
    12,929
    MLB ERA
    9.67

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    Corey Patterson at this point last year. OPS .584
    Willy Tavares at this point this year. OPS .572
    HollywoodLeo: You and Kingdom always annoy me
    "Oh, don't mind me, I'm rebuilding now" then you win at least 80 games

    RIP S3SL Minnesota Twins.

    RIP HSL Anaheim Angels

    Rebuilding the Dodger Blues
    Renewed Start back in the land of 10,000 lakes

  10. #10
    Furcals Designated Driver realmofotalk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    16,526
    MLB ERA
    2.63
    Blog Entries
    5

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    It takes patience to know when to lay off a bad pitch and take deep counts, and it takes aggressiveness to put the bat on the ball to avoid a called third strike. It's very tough to be able to do both things. If a batter can do both, he'd be one hell of an overall hitter, nevermind a leadoff hitter.

  11. #11
    Hall of Famer Slyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Belle, WV
    Posts
    12,929
    MLB ERA
    9.67

    Re: Reds Like Entire Rockies Roster

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyder View Post
    Corey Patterson at this point last year. OPS .584
    Willy Tavares at this point this year. OPS .572
    Patterson's OPS on this date in 08... .579
    Tavares's OPS... .557

    I can't believe it. I knew Tavares was an eyesore with the bat but he makes Corey Patterson look good?!?!

    Oh ya for full disclosure...

    Chris Dickerson OPS... .729

    Ya we dont need production at the top of the lineup or nothing Duhhhsty.
    HollywoodLeo: You and Kingdom always annoy me
    "Oh, don't mind me, I'm rebuilding now" then you win at least 80 games

    RIP S3SL Minnesota Twins.

    RIP HSL Anaheim Angels

    Rebuilding the Dodger Blues
    Renewed Start back in the land of 10,000 lakes

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •