Something is going down right now...

[HollywoodLeo]

Yeah, but Arroyo is garbage

[Dry1313]

Chamberlain
Pettitte
Mussina
Ponson
Rasner

That is your rotation, correct? Pettitte and Mussina gone next year? Ponson is a question mark. Rasner seems legit for a number 5 guy. And what has happened with Hughes and Kennedy? Being 7 games out, you may need some help.

Next year?
Fine, let's just factor out Wang, Hughes and Kennedy (who will be back in the next two weeks)

Future 5:
Chamberlain
Hughes
Wang
Kennedy
Rasner

Next Year:
Chamberlain
Pettite
Wang
Mussina
Hughes

Dude, last thing we need is a shitty guy like Arroyo for the "future."

And as far as being 7 games out, it's July 3rd.

I'm not panicking because we had no ARod or Posada for almost 3 weeks...and we have finally hit a brief slump.

If the Yankees make any trade now they are retarded

[redsrbetter]

Ok got you. I had your team all goofed up then. No big deal and thanks for squaring that away. So the Yanks are out unless they are crazy.

Anyone think it could be Harang? We are out of it this season. Stark mentioned some things about his not being untouchable. It could be...

CRF, you have anything on this?

[browntown653]

How do you know about this "something" going down again?

[redsrbetter]

I definitely don't know anything man. I am just commenting on what I have read on other boards on the net. This board usually doesn't have this many people confirming that a deal is in the works.

Right now, it is one of those deals that may or may not work out. But something is definitely going on. I am beginning to believe that it has something to do with Arroyo more than anything.

[redsrbetter]

What about Arroyo and the Braves?

[Doro]

redsrbetter, you check out a lot of Redszone as well I take it?

[Doro]

http://ohiosportsnews.blogspot.com/


"OSN has learned that the Cincinnati Reds are in the process of completing a deal with the Philadelphia Phillies.

The Reds will send Bronson Arroyo and a utility player to Philadelphia for CF Shane Victorino and a prospect."

[redsrbetter]

OSN has learned that the Cincinnati Reds are in the process of completing a deal with the Philadelphia Phillies.

The Reds will send Bronson Arroyo and a utility player to Philadelphia for CF Shane Victorino and a prospect.

Stick with OSN as the day goes on to find out more details.

Link

So Arroyo and possibly Freel when he comes off the DL (The Phils had interest in Freel before) for Victorino and a spect.

[redsrbetter]

Haha Doro we just posted this at the same time...

[redsrbetter]

UPDATE:

The Reds may also be involved in a smaller deal which could be completed first. Keep your eye on the Marlins as a potential trading partner.

That is coming from that same blog. Speculation has Ross going to the Marlins...

[redsrbetter]

Ross to the Marlins?

TEAM TARGETS REDS CATCHER DAVID ROSS

Although the catching market is thin, the Marlins are looking at Cincinnati Reds catcher David Ross as a trade possibility.

Ross, who primarily has been a backup for most of his seven major-league seasons, is hitting .247 with one home run in 89 at-bats this season.

But Ross, 31, a former University of Florida player, is serviceable and relatively inexpensive ($2.52 million this season with a club option in 2009 for $3.5 million).

He is a career .224 hitter, but hit 21 home runs in 2006 and 17 last year in the cozy confines of Great American Ball Park. Over his career, Ross has a 38 percent rate throwing out runners trying to steal.

The Marlins are less interested in Colorado's Yorvit Torrealba, Washington's Paul Lo Duca and Kansas City's Miguel Olivo.

[Providence A's]

hate to break it to you guys...

Arroyo For Victorino Rumor Is Bogus: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

[griffeyfan3]

I would not mind at all an Arroyo for Victorino trade. But it does seem this will not go down according to the link posted by Providence A's.

[redsrbetter]

Provi may be right here:

Per Jason Stark:

No Victorino on the menu: Despite persistent rumors that the Phillies would trade Shane Victorino for a starting pitcher, an official of one club says: "I don't know where that's coming from." He said the Phillies have "never given the indication they're actively looking to do something with him." There was substance to the Victorino rumors last summer, when the Phillies still had Aaron Rowand around. But his legs and defense in center almost certainly make him an irreplaceable cog this year.

Incidentally, other clubs are reporting the Phillies also won't talk about their Double-A catcher, Lou Marson (currently hitting .322, with a .444 on-base percentage that ranks second in the Eastern League). They're now projecting Marson as their starting catcher in the very near future.

I am just now getting to all the updated hoopla, so I will keep reading and see what I find. I still think something is there though. Even Phillies message boards are talking about a deal with Arroyo and a utility player for Victorino and a prospect. We'll see...

UPDATE:

John Fay:

I asked a Reds official about that deal. He said there was nothing to it.