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    The offense did finish ranked No. 22.

    However, I don't forsee the end of season slump the team had last year. I think they've learned from their issues (many of which had to do with not being used to a tight race and wearing out a little bit, which added depth should help).

    I also see players such as Dunn, Edwin and Phillips taking further steps forward, though Ross might drop back some.

    I see the improvement in defense being pretty large though all around, which could be pretty important for the pitching staff as a whole, especially ground-ball pitchers like Saarloos. I also see Belisle stepping in to replace Milton pretty quickly, who I think will be dumped.

    My picks for the season are because I'm a homer. Just how I feel. Everyone here should know I will talk negative about the team when I see fit.

    We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Forgot to mention Gomes for the D Rays. D Rays have a potent lineup but noooo pitching outside of Kazmir. Astros, Cubs, Brewers and Cards are better than the Cards which means I cannot think of them having a winning season.
    Just curious as to what upgrades the Brewers made that make them so much better than the Reds (other than all of their young talent...but don't the Reds have some of that too?) I think the Astros will be worse and I'm not buying all of the Cubs' moves. They will likely be better, but I think they were more quantity than quality, particularly at Wrigley when it comes to some of the pitchers they added. Imagine the Windy City having a day of blowing wind. Visions of Eric Milton pitches are dancing in my head.

    Just sayin'.
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    Brewers got more depth, more pitching and a better catcher than last season but more importantly they are healthy. Last season, injuries were the big setback. This season they are prepared in case someone goes down with guys like Counsell and Mench on the bench. Plus Bill Hall will have a full time job at one spot.

    Astros are going to be worse but not that dramatic of a fall off. They still have one hell of an offense and have some pitchers with past success. Lidge will be the key.

    Cubs have a much better offense and even without Prior, they still have a decent staff. Soriano, Lee, Ramirez, Jones and Barrett are better than what the Reds have.

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    The Reds have more depth too and more pitch as well. Better pitching for that matter. Still not great, but better.

    I think you are overrating the offense for the Astros quite a bit.

    The Cubs might have a better offense, but I think you are slightly overrating it and the pitching staff could be a major mess.

    Just IMO.
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    I like both sides of the argument. This is one of the best parts about the beginning of a season. Here are my thoughts:

    Comparing our rotation this year to last years:

    2006
    Harang
    Arroyo
    Milton
    Claussen
    Williams

    2007
    Harang
    Arroyo
    Milton
    Lohse
    Belisle/Saarloos

    I see much of the same thing. Harang and Arroyo will anchor the staff. I see Harang maintaining consistency and Arroyo falling off just a bit. Milton may struggle and be replaced, and I think it will take Krivsky long enough to make the move that Bailey will be ready by then. But if Krivsky does move Milton right away; Livingston, Santos, Lizard, Belisle or Saarloos will be ready.
    I like our depth in SP this year compared to last year. Remember Krivsky having to get guys like Mays and Michalak? UGH.

    Next, we have to compare the defense. Team defense is a great asset in the win/loss column. Look at what unearned runs can do to a team and tell me it doesn't effect the game. This years defense will be much improved with Gonzo. Then the Griffey position change and having far greater range out in CF will help immensely. I believe the defense alone will win at least 5 games for us this year. No more worrying about Aurilia/Clayton manning the SS position. No more worrying about Griffey not being capable of running a would be routine fly ball down. It will be a much improved look on the defensive end this year.

    Then we have to compare this years offense to last years.

    2006 (Last year's OD lineup)
    Tony Womack 2B (Phillips is much better any day of the week)
    Felipe Lopez SS (Felo; better bat, Gonzo; better glove)
    Ken Griffey Jr. CF (Freel will provide much better defense and a better leadoff option over Womack)
    Adam Dunn LF (hopefully will improve)
    Edwin Encarnacion 3B (same)
    Scott Hatteberg 1B (same)
    Austin Kearns RF (Griffey could provide the same bat as Kearns did in RF)
    Javier Valentin C (Ross is hopefully better than LaRue or Valentin)
    Aaron Harang P (same)

    2007
    Ryan Freel CF
    Adam Dunn LF
    Brandon Phillips 2B
    Ken Griffey Jr. RF
    Edwin Encarnacion 3B
    Scott Hatteberg 1B
    Alex Gonzolez SS
    David Ross C
    Aaron Harang P

    I honestly do not see us regressing much in the offensive department. We lose Felo and Kearns bats, but we also gain Freel and Phillips. Not too bad of a trade off if you ask me. And I would much rather put up with Gonzo as the weak spot in the order over Womack.

    Next, we have to talk about this bullpen.

    2006
    Mercker
    Hammond
    Coffey
    Wagner
    Weathers
    Belisle

    2007
    Hermanson
    Saarloos/Belisle
    Weathers
    Stanton
    Cormier
    Coffey

    2007 depth:
    Majewski
    Bray
    Burton
    Livingston
    Santos

    I was one who had high hopes for our bullpen last year. I had a lot of faith in Coffey and Wagner. Coffey didn't dissapoint, but Wagner sure did. Hermanson is our closer this year, and until I see him pitch, I will reserve judgement. But I don't see it being as bad as what Wagner did for us in the early stages of last season. I also like our bullpen depth this year as we have many good arms ready to step in when nedded. We have veterans that may need some rest, and those guys can take over for a while.

    The last thing we have to compare is the teams we are opposing. With what I have layed out, I think our team has been defined better and is slightly improved overall. So what about the other teams in the division?

    Cards- Lineup is getting older, but is much the same. The addition of Duncan for the entire season will help, but injuries will plague this team all year. Their rotation is much worse this year:

    2006
    Carpenter
    Mulder
    Suppan
    Marquis
    Ponson

    2007
    Carpenter
    Wells
    Reyes
    Wainwright
    Looper

    Unless Reyes and Wainwright come out killing, we see a major weakness on this ballclub.

    Brew Crew- Even without having Carlos Lee this season, the Brewers look to have a slightly better offense IMO. They are young and still improving everywhere. This team's rotation is much improved as well. The addition of Suppan and Sheets hopefully having a healthy season, the Brewers are going to be a much improved team.

    Cubs- Pierre is gone, but Soriano replaces him in CF and the leadoff spot. Soriano is a vast improvement even over Pierre. Derosa replaces Perez at 2B and he will likely be another upgrade. Then Lee is another addition as he is expected to be healthy this year. Ramirez will be much of the same (underrated 3B) and then the rest of the lineup looks to be the same. I fear Michael Barrett as he had a solid season last year and is quickly becoming a force at catcher. I am not sure what to think about when it comes to the rotation. No Prior and no Wood means good things for opposing teams. The additon of Lilly and Marquis will not replace the talent of Prior and Wood, but they will still keep this lineup in games. Then you add Wood to the bullpen nd you have a potent arm to end games for you. I look for the Cubs to be an improved team this year.

    Stros- Their weak point from last year (offense) is improved with Lee and Loretta. But I don't see Loretta getting much PT with Biggio in at 2B. The rotation on the other hand has significantly faltered on paper. You cannot replace Pettitte and Clemens with Woody Williams and Jason Jennings. But those two may play more games and could help this team contend. I think they have lost talent, but will still be a force to be reckoned with.

    Bucs- I think their rotation is a bit too young, but at the same time, they are promising. Sanchez leads the team's offense with Bay as a huge force behind him. Not much else to talk about when it comes to the Pirates, this team can be beat, but they can sneak some wins in off you as well.

    Overall, I said the Reds have improved a bit. They are better fit to contend against the Cards, Astros, and Pirates. But the Cubs and Brewers will be the teams that will create the toughest battle. They have also improved and we will be seeing classic struggles against the two.

    After all that, my prediction is this:

    84-78

    Pitching wins baseball games. Harang and Arroyo alone made a huge impact on this team. We still contended right to the end even though we ranked 22 in runs scored. That shows that our pitching was outstanding. Just think about what will happen with this team if both those two pitchers continue to make their mark and Bailey comes in to help out. And to add to that, the defense will help these pitchers out in many games where Womack/Aurilia/Clayton and having Junior in CF did not. Our depth is improved and we can contend with the few teams within the division who have improved as well.

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    85-90

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. D™ View Post
    85-90
    so they're playing 175 games this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettochild View Post
    so they're playing 175 games this year?
    I believe he is predicting 85-90 wins.

    I can't fathom Danny predicting a losing record for the Reds, even if they had the Washington Nationals roster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo View Post
    I believe he is predicting 85-90 wins.

    I can't fathom Danny predicting a losing record for the Reds, even if they had the Washington Nationals roster.
    hey now I'm not tat big of a homer, :P

    but yeah that's how many wins I was thinking of not the wins and losses

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettochild View Post
    so they're playing 175 games this year?
    lol, yeah i was thinking the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsrbetter View Post

    Cards- Lineup is getting older, but is much the same. The addition of Duncan for the entire season will help, but injuries will plague this team all year. Their rotation is much worse this year:

    2006
    Carpenter
    Mulder
    Suppan
    Marquis
    Ponson

    2007
    Carpenter
    Wells
    Reyes
    Wainwright
    Looper

    Unless Reyes and Wainwright come out killing, we see a major weakness on this ballclub.


    To say the Cards are going to have injuries is like saying MLK was black, no shit!! I don't see how they are going to have any more than any other team, especially the Reds. The Cards have an extremely deep bench to make up for any injury that may happen. Their rotation is worse? Explain that one? Reyes and Wainwright will be better than Suppan and anyone can be better than Ponson. Not to mention Mulder coming back for the playoff push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CincyRedsFan30 View Post
    I think you are overrating the offense for the Astros quite a bit.

    The Cubs might have a better offense, but I think you are slightly overrating it and the pitching staff could be a major mess.

    Just IMO.
    Biggio, Berkman, Lee, Ensberg and Lane is not overrated. Did you see how the Astros played in the second half last year or did you forget?

    And it's not "The Cubs might have a better offense", they HAVE better offense. Pitching's always a mess with this team but it is better.

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